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From: Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Dirt: To shove under the rug or not shove under the rug? (aka another round of USE_EXPAND)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 13:54:30
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Dirt: To shove under the rug or not shove under the rug? (aka another round of USE_EXPAND) by Thomas de Grenier de Latour
1 On Tue, 2005-09-27 at 15:07 +0200, Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote:
2 > On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 08:35:43 -0400
3 > Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@g.o> wrote:
4 >
5 > > Unfortunately, even trying to add -linguas_fr to package.use,
6 > > still results in the French language pack being installed over
7 > > the English.
8 >
9 > This reminds me bug #104573: it was the same problem where some
10 > LINGUAS="fr" users didn't want to have manpages-fr installed. The
11 > workaround used there was to add the "nls" USE flag. This way you
12 > separate the "do you want some translations?" question from the
13 > "what translations do you want?" question.
15 Actually, I like this idea. It isn't perfect, but it allows one to add
16 -nls for the package in package.use to turn off translations. It still
17 doesn't completely solve the problem, however.
19 The user in question has LINGUAS="en_US fr" but wants the English
20 translation. This would be fine for this user, but what if the user had
21 wanted the French translation and not English?
23 > But sure, it's more a workaround than an ideal solution.
24 >
25 > > For one, things in USE_EXPAND would need to be negate-able in
26 > > package.use.
27 >
28 > It may be a problem if an ebuild relies on the USE flags being
29 > coherent with the env var itself. I don't have example of such
30 > ebuilds in mind though, but i guess it could happen that, for
31 > instance, on one hand the LINGUAS var is used by autotools to
32 > choose the locales to install, and on the other hand the linguas_*
33 > flags are used to add some help files or spell dicts: this could
34 > result in some kind of half-translated apps, maybe even broken
35 > apps, i don't know...
37 I hadn't considered this situation, as I was stuck thinking of binary
38 apps (nwn and civ-ctp).
40 --
41 Chris Gianelloni
42 Release Engineering - Strategic Lead
43 Games - Developer
44 Gentoo Linux


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