Re: [gentoo-dev] Dirt: To shove under the rug or not shove under the rug? (aka another round of USE_EXPAND)

[Chris Gianelloni]

On Tue, 2005-09-27 at 15:07 +0200, Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 08:35:43 -0400
> Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@g.o> wrote:
>
> > Unfortunately, even trying to add -linguas_fr to package.use,
> > still results in the French language pack being installed over
> > the English.
>
> This reminds me bug #104573: it was the same problem where some
> LINGUAS="fr" users didn't want to have manpages-fr installed. The
> workaround used there was to add the "nls" USE flag. This way you
> separate the "do you want some translations?" question from the
> "what translations do you want?" question.

Actually, I like this idea.  It isn't perfect, but it allows one to add
-nls for the package in package.use to turn off translations.  It still
doesn't completely solve the problem, however.

The user in question has LINGUAS="en_US fr" but wants the English
translation.  This would be fine for this user, but what if the user had
wanted the French translation and not English?

> But sure, it's more a workaround than an ideal solution.
>
> > For one, things in USE_EXPAND would need to be negate-able in
> > package.use.
>
> It may be a problem if an ebuild relies on the USE flags being
> coherent with the env var itself.  I don't have example of such
> ebuilds in mind though, but i guess it could happen that, for
> instance, on one hand the LINGUAS var is used by autotools to
> choose the locales to install, and on the other hand the linguas_*
> flags are used to add some help files or spell dicts: this could
> result in some kind of half-translated apps, maybe even broken
> apps, i don't know...

I hadn't considered this situation, as I was stuck thinking of binary
apps (nwn and civ-ctp).

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Chris Gianelloni
Release Engineering - Strategic Lead
Games - Developer
Gentoo Linux