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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>
To: Ian Stakenvicius <axs@g.o>
Cc: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] package.mask vs ~arch
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 15:37:26
Message-Id: 20140630173654.0c70c367@pomiot.lan
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] package.mask vs ~arch by Ian Stakenvicius
1 Dnia 2014-06-30, o godz. 11:22:07
2 Ian Stakenvicius <axs@g.o> napisał(a):
3
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7 > On 30/06/14 09:25 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
8 > > On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 12:01 AM, William Hubbs
9 > > <williamh@g.o> wrote:
10 > >>
11 > >> On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 10:04:54AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
12 > >>> On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 8:36 AM, hasufell <hasufell@g.o>
13 > >>> wrote:
14 > >>>> This is still too vague for me. If it's expected to be
15 > >>>> short-term, then it can as well just land in ~arch.
16 > >>>
17 > >>> A package that hasn't been tested AT ALL doesn't belong in
18 > >>> ~arch. Suppose the maintainer is unable to test some aspect of
19 > >>> the package, or any aspect of the package? Do we want it to
20 > >>> break completely for ~arch? In that event, nobody will run
21 > >>> ~arch for that package, and then it still isn't getting
22 > >>> tested.
23 > >>
24 > >> I'm not saying that we should just randomly throw something into
25 > >> ~arch without testing it, but ~arch users are running ~arch with
26 > >> the understanding that their systems will break from time to time
27 > >> and they are expected to be able to deal with it when/if it
28 > >> happens. ~arch is not a second stable branch.
29 > >
30 > > Agree 100%. I'm taking about masking things that HAVEN'T BEEN
31 > > TESTED AT ALL. The maintainer knows that they compile, and that is
32 > > it. Or maybe they tested it in a very limited set of circumstances
33 > > but know that other untested circumstances are important to the
34 > > users and they have definite plans to get them tested.
35 > >
36 >
37 >
38 > Here's a great example of this -- dev-libs/nss-3.16-r1 is p.masked by
39 > me for testing, because when I converted it to multilib i needed to
40 > change the way it does some internal ABI determination tests, and
41 > although I know it does work fine on multilib-amd64 and (non-multilib)
42 > x86, I am not confident without more testing that it will work for
43 > cross-compiles or other non-multilib arches. As such, it -is- in the
44 > tree, but I've masked it until I can test it myself in these
45 > circumstances or find someone else that can do it for me.
46
47 But... if you unmask it, someone will test it and report whether it
48 works :P.
49
50 --
51 Best regards,
52 Michał Górny

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