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On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 08:09, Brad Laue wrote: |
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> Bell Canada's Sympatico service started out as the driving force behind |
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> the development of PPPoE clients under Linux, and the past two releases |
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> of both Mandrake and RedHat have in fact included built-in support and |
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> configuration frontends that enable a user to get online with minimal |
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> hassle. |
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While it's a popular favorite of Canada, I know a lot of people in the |
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US who aren't as fond of it as you are. And Mandrake and RedHat also |
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include dhcp client support. I'm not saying rip out pppoe. I'm saying we |
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should include what is required to get someone on the net as part of the |
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base system. Thats ANY network. Not just Canada's PPPoE network. |
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> Re: the sanity of choosing DHCP over PPPoE, the main perceived drawback |
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> is the dynamic IP. This is a management issue - PPPoE is as capable of |
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> delivering a static IP to the user as standard PPP is. As for |
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> encapsulation overhead, 1meg and 3meg service render this unnoticeable |
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> to the user (it may perhaps be 'less efficient' from a purist |
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> standpoint, but these are residential connections we're talking about). |
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Never cared why they chose it. If you want to go the technical purist |
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standpoint, PPPoE is the spawn of satan. If it works for the customer |
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however, I don't see an issue. The whole if it works use it thing. =) |
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> At any rate, seeing as both PPPoE and DHCP are not as universal as |
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> ethernet (which requires the presence of such utilities as ifconfig in |
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> the basic system), and are both really fast emerges, wouldn't they |
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> contribute to a nice small base system? They seem more reasonable |
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> choices than some of the other suggestions I'm seeing. |
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I would still have to disagree. Most places I've worked at, or school |
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at, still used DCHP on ethernet. I've only ever had to use PPPoE once. |
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Only one place I've ever worked at handed out static IP's internally to |
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employees, there is no need. DHCP works perfectly in that enviroment. |
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> > I agree that pruning the base system is probably a good idea, but why |
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> > look at basic network components that atleast half of our users require |
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> > in order to get their machine on the net? |
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> Because they're options, and options are not defaults. :P |
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Your right, networking is an option, I hadn't realized that. Thank you |
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for pointing it out. Lets just rip out ifconfig, dhcpcd, pppoe, and tell |
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everyone to use GRP CD's cause that fad called a network is dead. |
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> Brad |
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Kevyn |