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On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 10:29:47AM -0500, Grant Goodyear wrote: |
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> > So, how about using this incident as an opportunity for a calm |
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> > discussion about the mandate and role of the proctors? The proctors |
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> > clearly felt that they should shut down this thread _before_ things |
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> > got out of hand. |
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I whole-heartedly agree with this. |
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It is probably safe to assume that everyone would like Gentoo to find a |
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system that works to prevent and/or put out flames. In the process of |
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figuring out the proper way, we are bound to make mistakes. We can't |
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expect ourselves to come up with a complete and perfect plan in advance |
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and live happily ever after. |
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Why not just assume a mistake was made when you don't agree with |
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something like this and then either wait for the specified period or go |
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to the proctors mailing list to explain how you think it could have been |
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better handled? |
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Why would an action by the proctors like this one make you want to quit |
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Gentoo altogether? Suppose that after discussion the proctors would |
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agree with you that it should have been handled differently and that |
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they made a mistake, would that have had a lasting effect on your |
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motivation? I can't imagine it would have. |
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On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 06:06:14PM +0200, Marien Zwart wrote: |
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> People really need to make up their mind about what the -dev ml *is*. |
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> If the proctors are not supposed to keep the discussions there mostly |
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> focused on technical matters and keep people from attacking each other |
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> (I quote again: "Clean the sand out of your pee-hole..."? does that |
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> really belong on a technical list like this?) then that should be made |
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> a lot more obvious than it currently is. |
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I agree that the proctors should just use their best insight to |
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determine if something is ok for a technical list. This will inevitably |
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mean that sometimes some posts will be incorrectly tagged as over the |
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line, but the worst that will do is to ruin a joke. Of course you'll be |
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annoyed that your joke was misunderstood, but for the good of the list |
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just suck it up and move along. It will not prevent this list from |
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fulfilling its purpose of being a place to discuss technical issues, |
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which is the most important thing if you ask me. |
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Regards, |
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Maurice. |
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Maurice van der Pot |
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Gentoo Linux Developer griffon26@g.o http://www.gentoo.org |
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Creator of BiteMe! griffon26@××××××××.com http://www.kfk4ever.com |
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