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From: Nathaniel McCallum <Nathaniel_McCallum@××××××××××××××.edu>
To: kumba@g.o
Cc: gentoo-dev@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Text Menu Installer Idea
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 04:14:41
Message-Id: fc.000f619a012e54703b9aca001c613cec.12e5483@asburyseminary.edu
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Text Menu Installer Idea by Kumba
1 kumba@g.o writes:
2 >Okay, I'm writing this mail up to see what people think of the idea of a
3 >menu system for installing Gentoo. Now before the mob drags me out and
4 >lynches me, I'm not talking about some bloated X11 thing, but something
5 >more simple akin to Debian's installer or FreeBSD's sysinstall.
6 >
7 >I tried to help several people today on different IRC networks install
8 >Gentoo, one who was totally new to Linux, the other who was very
9 >experienced with it, and both had issues with the excessive use of the
10 >Command Line. Now I myself am a fan of the command line, and have no
11 >problem with installing gentoo via a command line interface, but not
12 >everyone likes this.
13 >
14 >Since Gentoo's mantra is about choice, I think a menu-driven system
15 >could succeed, or supplement the command line interface, giving the user
16 >the choice of going either route. I've taken a brief look at the
17 >install manuals, and the basic steps taken are universally similar.
18 >Some differences are only in the fdisk setup (depending on your
19 >architecture), stage selections (like GRP and Portage's upcoming binary
20 >installing ability), and so on. It's really not until the end of the
21 >install, right around the kernel installation, where things change,
22 >mainly due to the bootloaders used, and final cleanup tasks and such.
23 >
24 >Right now, this is just an idea. I would probably need to create a GLEP
25 >for it to get it more cemented, after some logistical ideas get worked
26 >out (like whether to use dialog, ncurses, or lsdialog, etc..). However,
27 >I think it's an overdue idea, and complete implementation of it will go
28 >a long way to making the install process easier for users. So let's
29 >start trading ideas on this.
30
31 I am the author of GLIS. What you have been proposing is exactly what
32 GLIS has aimed for. We are currently rewriting from scratch to be more
33 modular. Our rewrite reads system configuration from a "kickstart" type
34 file, and executes install. Then GUIs will be written seperately to
35 generate the "kickstart" and call the GLIS script. This allows one to do
36 the install various different ways:
37 1. by hand
38 2. by hand-edited kickstart (useful for servers)
39 3. by GUI(s)
40
41 We are also looking for more help on this project. If you want to help,
42 join #glis on freenode or email me :)
43
44 Nathaniel
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