Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: GLEP 19 -- Gentoo Stable Portage Tree

[Paul de Vrieze]

On Tuesday 03 February 2004 16:28, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
>
> db-4.1.25_p1-r3 KEYWORDS="ia64 ppc amd64 ppc64 hppa"
> db-4.0.14-r2 KEYWORDS="x86 sparc alpha mips"

For this ebuild we might look into moving db-4.1 into stable. In any case I 
seriously doubt whether it is wise for non-experimental architectures to mark 
ebuilds stable that are not stable for the main arch (x86) (experimental 
being the amd64 and ia64 archs)

> Now, depending on which arch you'r eon would entirely depend on which
> version you get.
>
> There should be ZERO updates in the actual stable tree.  You should be
> able to install a machine on day 1 of the release, or day 89 and still
> get the EXACT same tree, otherwise, it isn't stable.

Actually I would like to be able to download the tree 10 years from now and 
given that the source files are there it should be possible to build a gentoo 
system (NOT SECURE, not all hardware) that is the same to one from now.

>
> Updates would have to be provided separately, though still via rsync.
> I would see something like /usr/portage-stable and
> /usr/portage-updates, with -stable being static with the release used
> and -updates being all the changes since release.
>
> It would also make "upgrading" to a new release fairly easy, as a
> change in /etc/make.conf from VERSION="2004.0" to VERSION="2004.1"
> would yield the -stable being upgraded to the new release and -updates
> being propagated with the updates.

It could be that we need to provide some extra upgrade scripts. Maybe we could 
at least provide that first of all portage get's updated in such a case. That 
would allow us to add the infrastructure if needed.

Paul

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