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On 3/9/2022 16:00, Matt Turner wrote: |
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> I'd like to deprecate and ultimately remove repoman. I believe that |
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> dev-util/pkgcheck and pkgcommit (from app-portage/mgorny-dev-scripts) |
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> are far superior replacements, and it makes sense to have people using |
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> the same tool and seeing the same warnings as in the CI. |
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> Are there any useful checks or behaviors of repoman that are missing |
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> from pkgcheck and pkgcommit? |
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> Thanks, |
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> Matt |
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repoman has been //the// goto tool for checking in a change since before I |
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was a developer in 2003. It does everything we need, in one simple tool. |
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Your proposal looks to replace repoman's functionality (and snark) with two |
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or more packages, including tools from a package named after a fellow developer. |
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Additionally, "I believe that <foo> are far superior replacements" is an |
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entirely subjective opinion and, frankly, completely invalid as |
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justification to replace a tool that has worked fine for the last 20+ years. |
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What is so fundamentally broken about repoman that cannot be fixed such |
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that it needs total replacement by multiple independent tools? Please |
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document. the pros and cons here so that we can all make an informed decision. |
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I'm not opposed to making our tools better, but I think before anything can |
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replace the RepoMan, several more boxes need to be ticked: |
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- functionality from multiple tools should be packaged into a single tool. |
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* caveat: at least provide a wrapper that, using args, can invoke the |
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individual tools if needed. |
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- app-portage/mgorny-dev-scripts needs a new name. It's fine if it's |
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intended to only be a collection of useful scripts for individual developers |
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on an as-needed basis, but if it's to be the Official Tool(TM), then it |
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needs to have a proper name. If not all of the scripts contained within it |
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are applicable to the sole function of checking a change into the tree, then |
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only the scripts that deal with change validation and committing should be |
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broken out into a separate package, and ostensibly combined with any other |
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tools/scripts into a single package, and preferably a single tool, to get |
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the job done. |
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- all of our developer documentation needs to be updated to reference the |
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new tool and the new way of doing things, as well as a warning not to use |
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repoman any further after a set date. Additionally, a news item is probably |
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advisable so that developers and proxy maintainers alike can get the message. |
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- we need the snark. Gentoo is all about personality, and RepoMan has been |
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scouring our neighborhoods for two decades and change, and while some may |
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think this is utterly frivolous, I will actually miss seeing those messages |
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on the console every time I commit a change. They give the RepoMan |
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personality and a soul, and thus, contribute to the uniqueness that is Gentoo. |
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Joshua Kinard |
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"The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us. And |
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our lives slip away, moment by moment, lost in that vast, terrible in-between." |
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