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From: "Petteri Räty" <betelgeuse@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Reducing the size of the system package set
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 01:03:02
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Reducing the size of the system package set by (Diego 'Flameeyes' =?utf-8?Q?Petten=C3=B2?=)
1 Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò kirjoitti:
2 > Here comes the official proposal, copy and paste from my blog with an
3 > extra post scriptum at the end.
4 >
5 > I already ranted about the fact that the dependency tree of our ebuilds
6 > is vastly incomplete, as many lack dependency on zlib; trying to get
7 > this fixed was impossible, as Donnie and other insisted that as zlib was
8 > in system, we shouldn’t depend on it at all. I disagree, and I would
9 > like to know why we can’t depend on a system package, but whatever.
11 At least one reason is that otherwise lots of ebuild submissions would
12 have coreutils/gcc/libc/whatever in DEPEND/RDEPEND.
14 >
15 > But why autoconf and automake? Well the easy answer is that those are
16 > often used without making sure they are depended upon explicitly… or at
17 > least this was the case till me and Martin added autotools.eclass to the
18 > tree; nowadays all the ebuilds using autotools should have proper
19 > autoconf/automake dependency already, and if they don’t they are broken
20 > anyway. So why leaving them in system? And what about m4? m4 is not part
21 > of a common Unix system, it’s just an autoconf dependency, why isn’t it
22 > just an autoconf dependency?
23 >
25 IMHO these could be removed from the system set. But likely the packages
26 left in there would pull it to the stages any way.
28 >
29 > P.S.:
30 >
31 > So there are more things that were brought to my attention, like ssh,
32 > flex, bison, e2fsprogs, and so on. We should probably look into what to
33 > keep, rather than what to remove.
34 >
36 Well e2fsprogs provides fsck so it's a dep of baselayout. But it
37 wouldn't hurt to cleanup the list even if it doesn't get them removed
38 from stages. I don't know about other system packages but at least
39 baselayout is not really depending on much atm.
41 Regards,
42 Petteri


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Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Reducing the size of the system package set "Piotr Jaroszyński" <peper@g.o>