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From: "Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg)" <nunojsilva@×××××××.pt>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: net-im/kmess, net-im/amsn, x11-themes/amsn-skins
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 10:48:50
Message-Id: m204s5$72m$1@ger.gmane.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: net-im/kmess, net-im/amsn, x11-themes/amsn-skins by "Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg)"
1 On 2014-10-19, Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg) <nunojsilva@×××××××.pt> wrote:
2 > On 2014-10-12, Nuno Silva (aka njsg) <nunojsilva@×××××××.pt> wrote:
3 >> On 2014-09-02, Markos Chandras <hwoarang@g.o> wrote:
4 >>>
5 >>> Hi,
6 >>>
7 >>> They were already masked, but because of
8 >>> http://www.forbes.com/sites/amitchowdhry/2014/08/31/msn-messenger-is-completely-shutting-down-on-october-31st/
9 >>> , I see no point having these packages in the tree anymore. I will
10 >>> remove them in 30 days
11 >>>
12 >>> # Markos Chandras <hwoarang@g.o> (02 Sep 2014)
13 >>> # MSN service terminated.
14 >>> # You can still use your MSN account in net-im/skype
15 >>> # or switch to an open protocol instead
16 >>> # Masked for removal in 30 days
17 >>> net-im/kmess
18 >>> net-im/amsn
19 >>> x11-themes/amsn-skins
20 >>>
21 >>
22 >> This is not the first time that people report that "MSN is going to shut
23 >> down". So far, Skype itself is reported to use the MSN protocol internally
24 >> in the latest versions.
25 >>
26 >> IMHO it would be better if the packages were removed because they don't
27 >> work with the current versions of MSNP supported by the servers than
28 >> because of a forbes article.
29 >>
30 >> In fact, this article says "MSN Messenger is only available in mainland
31 >> China until then.". I have just connected two MSN Messenger accounts
32 >> through amsn 0.98.9 on gentoo and I successfully sent messages between
33 >> the accounts.
34 >>
35 >> amsn seems to be working outside of china. You may want to reconsider
36 >> this mask for removal.
37 >
38 > I filled bug 525100 about this
39 > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=525100
40 >
41 > This bug report should perhaps be expanded to include other packages
42 > which are masked as part of the same "MSN service terminated" mask or
43 > similar.
44
45 To clarify:
46
47 The maintainers (perhaps the net-im herd) *have* to remove these masks
48 on the MSN Messenger clients, because they don't make sense at all:
49
50 # Markos Chandras <hwoarang@g.o> (02 Sep 2014)
51 # MSN service terminated.
52 # You can still use your MSN account in net-im/skype
53 # or switch to an open protocol instead
54 # Masked for removal in 30 days
55 net-im/kmess
56 net-im/amsn
57 x11-themes/amsn-skins
58
59 The MSN Messenger service (aka "Windows Live Messenger", ...) is still
60 working, and it has never been terminated. MSN Messenger can actually
61 even be used to chat (in text) with (some) Skype users without having to
62 use net-im/skype.
63
64 amsn is still working as expected, you can even create new accounts and
65 make them work with the MSN Messenger service using amsn. A few days
66 ago, I successfully sent messages between two MSN Messenger accounts
67 connected using amsn.
68
69 --
70 Nuno Silva (aka njsg)
71 Helsinki, Finland