Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Restricted version of gentoo-dev mailing list

[Michał Górny]

On śro, 2017-05-24 at 13:39 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 24/05/2017 12:24, Michał Górny wrote:
> > On śro, 2017-05-24 at 03:48 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
> > > On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 08:41:25AM +0200, Micha?? Górny wrote
> > > > Next time such a thing happens, the discussion will happen on a
> > > > completely private media or not happen at all because of the state
> > > > of this mailing list. Is this what you really want?
> > >
> > >   Here's the part you did not quote...
> > >
> > > > > If we could have a guarantee of proposed changes like that being
> > > > > posted on Gentoo-User for comment, rather than being sprung on
> > > > > users by surprise, I'd be willing to sign off this list.
> > >
> > >   Note where I said "...posted on Gentoo-User for comment...".  What I'm
> > > asking is for such proposed changes to be posted on Gentoo-User, and the
> > > discussion/feedback/flamefests/etc will be on Gentoo-User.  This type of
> > > surprise stuff seems to happen a lot in Open Source...
> > >
> > > * Gentoo /usr
> > > * Firefox Australis UI, and dropping ALSA and going PulseAudio-only
> > > * GNOME getting a hard-coded dependancy on systemd
> > > * etc, etc
> >
> > And what would be the use of those 'user comments'? Do you believe it
> > would change anything? So what is the purpose of asking more users from
> > feedback *we do not want*?
> >
> > Would it make you feel better if you were asked to raise your objection?
> > Would you feel better claiming that we did it against objections of many
> > users? Or do you believe we would abandon it and decide not to do
> > anything because of the resulting bikeshed -- which seems to be
> > a recurring theme lately?
> >
> > Yes, I *do not want feedback* on *how to do Gentoo* from people who do
> > *not help me do Gentoo* but instead only complain and demand.
> >
>
>
> I can't let this one go.
>
> Michał, Walter is a long-term high-quality Gentoo-user and does not
> deserve to be told what you just said above.
>
> Please get your act together and stop treating other people as worthless
> nuisances.
>
> You are annoyed by someone or something, that much has been obvious for
> a long time now. I can assure you, Walter is not the correct target for
> your annoyance. Please deal with the correct source.
>

I'm sorry, I didn't mean that to apply specifically to Walter. It was
focused on the purpose of splitting the mailing lists.

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny