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On 24/04/13 11:46 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: |
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> On Wednesday 24 April 2013 13:54:07 William Hubbs wrote: |
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>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 01:34:36PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: |
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>>> On Wednesday 24 April 2013 13:23:23 William Hubbs wrote: |
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>>>> The issue is that OpenRC does not have any kind of dependency on gentoo-oldnet at all. There will be a separate loopback script in OpenRC |
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>>>> so it is possible to run OpenRC on a system without the oldnet or newnet scripts. In fact, this is a completely valid configuration. |
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>>> even then, a default Gentoo system should have networking support available by default. our manuals assume this, and people shouldn't have |
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>>> to install a stage3 and then do `emerge gentoo-oldnet` just to have that happen. so keeping a dependency in openrc (perhaps initially hard, |
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>>> or behind IUSE=+oldnet) makes sense. |
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+1 |
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We should definitely install networking by default, and not make people |
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install it as a separate emerge. If oldnet is being split into a different |
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package, perhaps newnet should be split out as well. |
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Maybe we could have a virtual/networking that defaults to oldnet and exists |
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as a hard dep of openrc. |
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>> if we keep a dependency for a while, even behind something like IUSE="+oldnet", when we drop it, people will still be hit if they do emerge |
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>> --depclean before they emerge gentoo-oldnet. |
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> i don't think we should drop it. openrc is logically the best place imo. |
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+1 |
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oldnet is and should remain the default networking implementation on Gentoo. |
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Newnet simply drops way too much functionality to become the default. |
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