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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Categories for GUI stuff x11 and wayland
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2017 15:04:38
Message-Id: a9bc4e40-8c4b-934a-77ea-d9eb859993da@gmail.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Re: Categories for GUI stuff x11 and wayland by Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>
1 On 05/09/2017 00:15, Duncan wrote:
2 > Kent Fredric posted on Tue, 05 Sep 2017 07:29:42 +1200 as excerpted:
3 >
4 >> On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 15:16:46 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr."
5 >> <wlt-ml@××××××.com> wrote:
6 >>
7 >>> Maybe just UI but that maybe to generic.
8 >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_interface
9 >>
10 >> As a side question, what does "xui" mean in this world?
11 >>
12 >> I went googling and all I could find was "X User Interface"
13 >>
14 >> And all I could find there is that's "A user interface to the X Windows
15 >> System"
16 >>
17 >> Are we allowed to consider Wayland and X11 are both "X Windows Systems"
18 >> providing "X User Interfaces", despite the underlying protocols being
19 >> different?
20 >
21 > Warnock agree?
22 >
23 > (Tho posting makes it no longer warnock.) Thanks for the warnock
24 > reference[1], BTW. I knew of the problem but had no name for it, so you
25 > broadened my vocabulary in a very useful way. =:^)
26 >
27 > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warnock%27s_dilemma
28 >
29
30 "xui" is a nice descriptive name and gets the point across in a
31 reasonably unambiguous way. wayland is not X11, but it comes from a
32 desire to do what X11 does without X11's problems.
33
34 There might be a smallish snag with educating users what "xui" means as
35 the name is not in common use.
36
37 "display-server" also serves as that is what wayland and X11 have in
38 common. It's a long unwieldy name and the "-" might trip over hidden
39 naming assumptions.
40
41 Given a vote, I'd vote for "xui".
42 Second choice is to stick with "x11-" as it will take a very long time
43 for all users to forget what x11 is and how wayland relates
44
45 --
46 Alan McKinnon
47 alan.mckinnon@×××××.com

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Categories for GUI stuff x11 and wayland Kent Fredric <kentnl@g.o>