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From: "Petteri Räty" <betelgeuse@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 10:56:06
Message-Id: 45E95113.3010705@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting by Daniel Robbins
1 Daniel Robbins wrote:
2 > On 3/3/07, Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm@×××××××.org> wrote:
3 >> Why does it matter whether it's written by Gentoo developers? What
4 >> matters is that it's written by people who know what they're talking
5 >> about and who can write reasonably decent technical material, and as the
6 >> primary author of the devmanual, a whole load of ebuilds, several
7 >> eclasses and of the only fully independent reimplementation of ebuild
8 >> (Pkgcore is in parts based upon Portage code -- whether or not this is
9 >> a good thing is irrelevant to this discussion), I'd say I qualify in
10 >> that area...
11 >
12 > Well, you were kicked from this project, and those who kicked you
13 > shouldn't be allowed to have their cake and eat it too. If you were
14 > kicked because you were deemed to be "bad" for Gentoo development,
15 > then presumably those reasons still apply and you shouldn't be allowed
16 > to participate in Gentoo development currently as you have been.
17 >
18 > If those reasons no longer apply, then your developer status should be
19 > handed back. You can't "sorta" participate - you're either in or
20 > you're not, and it looks like you're in. Right now it seems like you
21 > are fully engaged as a developer in an official Gentoo project.
22 >
23 > So I think some people should decide whether removing you from Gentoo
24 > development was the correct decision and should be enforced or was a
25 > mistake and should be corrected.
26 >
27 > Presumably, you were kicked for non-technical reasons.
28 >
29 > I'd just like the council/devrel to take a position one way or the other.
30 >
31 > I'm not trying to get you kicked as much as I'm trying to determine
32 > whether there are still clearly-defined rules for Gentoo development
33 > that are enforced in any meaningful or consistent way.
34 >
35 > -Daniel
36
37 Take your personal arguing outside this mailing list. We don't turn back
38 people doing good work but we expect them to know how to behave, but I
39 am not going to take a stance how this applies here at this point and
40 it's more of devrel's thing any way.
41
42 I wonder if this thread would have been like this if deadline was called
43 timetable in the original mail. I asked for access to PMS and got it so
44 I don't see any problem it being in any way too secret.
45
46 Regards,
47 Petteri

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