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On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 21:10 +0100, Grobian wrote: |
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> Users don't care about security[1], adminstrators do. |
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> Administrators don't care about breaking installations[2], users do. |
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That's the problem with sweeping generalisations .... they're just too |
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general to be of any value in a discussion. |
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> while I claim it 1) doesn't |
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> work because the information is hard to find and 2) it will work for a |
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> certain group of people very well if the information would be there. |
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I agree with 1) ... in fact, it's mentioned in the blog entry that |
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kicked all of this off. |
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But your second claim ... |
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I personally don't care about trying target and satisfy a "certain group |
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of people". I really don't. I'm after 100% of the userbase. Nothing |
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less is fit for purpose. I'm not interested in small fractionals in |
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this case. And especially not *only* small fractionals. |
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You don't seem to share this aim. To me, you're coming across as |
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wanting the news delivered to your exact personal preferences only, with |
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no regard for the wider issue or what may be best for the Gentoo project |
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and especially our userbase as a whole. |
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My personal conclusion was that there is only one place where we can |
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have any degree of certainty that we have the attention of 100% of the |
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userbase - or as near as damn it. I believe that place is right beneath |
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the message that tells the user they have CONFIG_PROTECTED files that |
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need updating. |
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Hence emerge --news. |
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If you have found *one* place where we are even more likely to have the |
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attention of 100% of the userbase, please share it with us. If there's |
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a better place, we should use that instead, and I will very happily |
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support it. |
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If we can put something together that takes the news available through |
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emerge --news, and pushes it out via other places (web, mailing lists, |
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whatever), I have no real problem with that. |
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But I think that there is a very good reason why it needs to come later, |
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why now is *not* the time. |
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We need to establish *one* authoritative source of news. We can't do |
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that if we simultaneously launch several sources of news all at once. |
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We have to launch *one* service first, give the userbase time to adjust |
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to that, and then start making the news available via additional |
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sources. |
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> Don't worry I'll shut up now as there is clearly no interest for a bit |
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> broader thinking. |
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I find your thinking anything but broad on this topic. |
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Best regards, |
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Stu |
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Stuart Herbert stuart@g.o |
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Gentoo Developer http://www.gentoo.org/ |
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http://stu.gnqs.org/diary/ |
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GnuGP key id# F9AFC57C available from http://pgp.mit.edu |
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Key fingerprint = 31FB 50D4 1F88 E227 F319 C549 0C2F 80BA F9AF C57C |
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