Re: [gentoo-dev] Project Sunrise resumed again (was Resignation)

[Seemant Kulleen]

On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 03:53 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:

> Partly, the part where it's run by people who have little clue about
> ebuild development or QA, who will be taking code from people who have
> little clue about ebuild development or QA and giving it to other
> people who have little clue about ebuild development or QA.

Can you back up the first part? The people running it, you claim, have
little clue about ebuild dev and QA -- can you provide proof of this? It
does, actually, fall on you, since you're making the accusation.

> Partly, the way it's bypassing the normal herd system and allowing
> unqualified developers to push code related to things they don't
> understand.

Where is this code being pushed to, exactly?

> Partly, the way it's being pushed through without proper discussion and
> without following the proper processes that're used to reduce the risk
> of major screwup.

This list has been full of discussion. And before the council meeting,
there were many further calls for discussion and comment.  The sunrise
folks have been actually pretty patient about addressing the same
concerns over and over and over.

> Sunrise is the wrong solution to a misrepresented problem being run by
> the wrong people.

OK, let's start with: what exactly is the problem? What is the correct
way to represent it?  After that please explain how you came to see
sunrise as the wrong solution to that problem.

You've claimed several times that you just try to stick to technical, so
please put a stop to the "look, but it's *them* doing it, how can you
trust those people?" bullshit already.


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Seemant Kulleen <seemant@g.o>
Gentoo Foundation / Gentoo Linux

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