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On 11/01/2014 01:18 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: |
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> What we can't do is force somebody to contribute. If somebody says |
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> that if we don't do multilib their way, they'll stop being the only |
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> libreoffice maintainer, and nobody else wants to maintain libreoffice, |
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> then we are left in a hard place (completely contrived scenario). |
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Someone who doesn't want to contribute shouldn't have commit access in |
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the first place. And I think that's currently not the case. |
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However, people who regularly block or even just ignore contribution |
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processes/channels are a serious problem. More so if they are in |
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non-trivial positions. Whether they do it on purpose or not is secondary. |
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But this is definitely not about technicalities (like "should lua have a |
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pkgconfig file or not"). |
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Every time this gets brought up someone says "oh, but we can't do |
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anything, because someone might be sad about it and quit gentoo". Uhm, |
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right. That's already happening, all the time. |
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What is worse is taking this "argument" as an excuse to not fix our |
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contribution culture, which is very bad on a lot of fronts. And every |
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time an incident like this happens... it gets even worse. |
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To be blunt with you, I think this is a matter of people having so much |
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respect for someone that they almost tolerate any misbehaviour. |
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And this behaviour spreads. It's a phenomenon we know from people like |
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Linus. Because he is smart after all and his insults are pretty funny. |
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It's not easy to emancipate oneself from the negativity in the |
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opensource world. It isn't caused by a particular group of people, but |
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by tolerating certain patterns of behaviour. |
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But there will be no improvement if we don't take such issues more |
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seriously. I don't really see that happening. It's something the |
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oldtimers have more power over than the council. |