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On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 11:39:10AM -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote: |
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> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 11:02 PM William Hubbs <williamh@g.o> wrote: |
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> > > Systemd already has IUSE=+sysv-utils which has a similar function: |
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> > > [- ] sysv-utils |
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> > > sys-apps/systemd: Install sysvinit compatibility symlinks and |
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> > > manpages for init, telinit, halt, poweroff, reboot, runlevel, and |
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> > > shutdown |
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> > Actually, I like the name sysv-utils for this use flag; that seems to |
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> > describe better what it does. |
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> > > RDEPEND="sysv-utils? ( !sys-apps/sysvinit ) |
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> > > !sysv-utils? ( sys-apps/sysvinit )" |
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> > I like this, but the second branch (!sysv-utils) is not really needed, |
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> > because if we put sysvinit as the first RDEPEND of virtual/init, we |
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> > don't need to worry about installing it through rdepend in openrc. |
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> To clarify why this strange looking dependency is there in |
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> sys-apps/systemd: I felt it was fairly important to always have init, |
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> shutdown, etc. available to avoid breaking other tools and to prevent |
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> confusion. systemd is technically usable without them, but you would |
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> need to explicitly set up your bootloader to add |
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> init=/lib/systemd/systemd to the kernel command line, and you would |
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> need to call systemctl directly instead of using the symlinks to shut |
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> the system down. |
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Hey Mike, |
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I just looked at the systemd ebuild a second time and see that that is |
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what you have, I missed it my first look, so I suppose that I should do |
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things in a similar way to what you are doing. |
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It would be worth discussing though, probably on another thread, the |
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merrits of virtual/init. |
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> Relying on any-of dependency ordering in a virtual package to |
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> accomplish this is a bit optimistic. That can go wrong easily if the |
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> user installs multiple providers. |
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Where it would break is if a user uses --depclean without paying |
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attention to what is happening on their system, but that can cause |
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unexpected breakages anyway, this is not a unique situation. |
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> > We can also add sys-apps/openrc as an rdepend of sys-apps/sysvinit possibly. |
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> Please do not do this without consulting me first. This could |
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> introduce a dependency conflict in sys-apps/systemd. |
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I see that it could, so this might be a separate topic. |
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William |
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