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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Cc: mikemol@×××××.com
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc init scripts taking command line arguments
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 20:07:27
Message-Id: 20120718220620.19055cf6@pomiocik.lan
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc init scripts taking command line arguments by Michael Mol
1 On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:58:18 -0400
2 Michael Mol <mikemol@×××××.com> wrote:
3
4 > On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Peter Stuge <peter@×××××.se> wrote:
5 > > William Hubbs wrote:
6 > >> /etc/init.d/foo stop start
7 > >>
8 > >> would no longer work the way you might expect because there would
9 > >> be no way to tell whether start is a command or an argument to
10 > >> stop.
11 > >>
12 > >> What are your thoughts about this change?
13 > >
14 > > /etc/init.d/foo stop start
15 > >
16 > > along with all other commands can work like before.
17 > >
18 > > /etc/init.d/foo stop -- start
19 > >
20 > > can pass start as an argument to the stop command.
21 >
22 > I like this approach, because its use of -- continues expected
23 > commandline parsing behaviors from other commands, making it
24 > intuitive.
25
26 No, it's not intuitive. It's rather counter-intuitive.
27
28 GNU command line parsers use '--' to separate options from random
29 arguments. It's '--' because options start with '-'. For arguments
30 starting with any other character, GNU option parsers treat them
31 equally before and after '--'.
32
33 And yes, some tools actually use '--' to separate arguments to the tool
34 itself from arguments which are passed to some other tool. This is not
35 very intuitive as well, and I really prefer having
36 '--subtool-one-arguments "--foo --bar"' instead, with embedded
37 splitting logic. Of course, this is harder to implement.
38
39 --
40 Best regards,
41 Michał Górny

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