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From: Sergey Popov <pinkbyte@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: revisiting our stabilization policy
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 06:27:18
Message-Id: 52D77BB9.10107@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: revisiting our stabilization policy by Thomas Sachau
1 15.01.2014 22:33, Thomas Sachau пишет:
2 > William Hubbs schrieb:
3 >
4 >> Thoughts?
5 >>
6 >> William
7 >>
8 >> [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/487332
9 >> [2] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/meeting-logs/20130917-summary.txt
10 >>
11 >
12 > I see 2 cases here:
13 >
14 > 1. specific or all arch teams allow maintainers to stabilize packages on
15 > their own, when they follow the arch team stabilization rules (e.g.
16 > having a system running with stable keywords for testing the package).
17 > This should not reduce the quality of the stable tree (or only to the
18 > small amount, that some arch testers do additional checks the maintainer
19 > does not do). Reading through this thread, it seems like amd64 and x86
20 > arch teams already use this policy. This sounds like a reasonable
21 > agreement, so i am supporting this too.
22 >
23 > 2. for arches with no such agreement or where the maintainer does not
24 > have the needed hardware to test, no action for a certain amount of time
25 > usually means, that the arch team is overloaded with work so the only
26 > short- to mid-term solution is to reduce the amount of work resulting in
27 > smaller amount of stable packages. So i am voting for maintainers
28 > dropping stable keywords after a certain amount of time with no actions
29 > (maybe with some notice beforehand). This might result in a mixed arch
30 > user setup by default, but imho it is still better to have a smaller
31 > stable set of core packages and testing packages on top then having
32 > either everything on testing or broken/untested/unsupported packages,
33 > which are still claimed to be the opposite with the stable keyword.
34 >
35 > short summary:
36 >
37 > -in agreement with arch teams, following stabilization policy and having
38 > the needed hardware, maintainers should be able to add stable keywords
39 > themselves
40 > -if either agreement of arch team or needed hardware is missing,
41 > keywords should be dropped, so that after some time the workload matches
42 > the abilities of the arch team again.
43 >
44
45 Thanks, for the proposal. IIRC, there was similar backroom agreement in
46 some minor arches, look at how armin76 stabilized packages earlier -
47 sometimes he drops vast amount of keywords on ia64/sparc/m68k to
48 unstable in stabilization requests.
49
50 And i think we should continue this practice.
51
52 --
53 Best regards, Sergey Popov
54 Gentoo developer
55 Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead
56 Gentoo Qt project lead
57 Gentoo Proxy maintainers project lead

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