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15.01.2014 22:33, Thomas Sachau пишет: |
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> William Hubbs schrieb: |
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>> Thoughts? |
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>> William |
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>> [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/487332 |
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>> [2] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/meeting-logs/20130917-summary.txt |
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> I see 2 cases here: |
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> 1. specific or all arch teams allow maintainers to stabilize packages on |
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> their own, when they follow the arch team stabilization rules (e.g. |
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> having a system running with stable keywords for testing the package). |
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> This should not reduce the quality of the stable tree (or only to the |
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> small amount, that some arch testers do additional checks the maintainer |
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> does not do). Reading through this thread, it seems like amd64 and x86 |
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> arch teams already use this policy. This sounds like a reasonable |
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> agreement, so i am supporting this too. |
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> 2. for arches with no such agreement or where the maintainer does not |
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> have the needed hardware to test, no action for a certain amount of time |
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> usually means, that the arch team is overloaded with work so the only |
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> short- to mid-term solution is to reduce the amount of work resulting in |
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> smaller amount of stable packages. So i am voting for maintainers |
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> dropping stable keywords after a certain amount of time with no actions |
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> (maybe with some notice beforehand). This might result in a mixed arch |
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> user setup by default, but imho it is still better to have a smaller |
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> stable set of core packages and testing packages on top then having |
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> either everything on testing or broken/untested/unsupported packages, |
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> which are still claimed to be the opposite with the stable keyword. |
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> short summary: |
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> -in agreement with arch teams, following stabilization policy and having |
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> the needed hardware, maintainers should be able to add stable keywords |
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> themselves |
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> -if either agreement of arch team or needed hardware is missing, |
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> keywords should be dropped, so that after some time the workload matches |
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> the abilities of the arch team again. |
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Thanks, for the proposal. IIRC, there was similar backroom agreement in |
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some minor arches, look at how armin76 stabilized packages earlier - |
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sometimes he drops vast amount of keywords on ia64/sparc/m68k to |
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unstable in stabilization requests. |
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And i think we should continue this practice. |
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Best regards, Sergey Popov |
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Gentoo developer |
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