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On 09/06/16 22:15, Michał Górny wrote: |
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> Didn't you just contradict yourself? First you tell that everyone |
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> should have their own public repo... then you tell that we should |
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> merge stuff from those repos. So are you targeting split-repo |
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> model, or central repo model, or...? |
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Everyone should have their own public repository, yes. I want people |
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to be able to grow their own Gentoo as they please. But I'm not |
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suggesting we up and away with our developers and expertise. instead, |
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we should maintain core/base packages, and curated and reviewed |
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small-ish repositories that we feature and recommend using. As such, |
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I'm not suggesting anything that major here. Just encouraging users to |
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put all their stuff public and get more involved with writing and |
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reviewing ebuilds, and, further on, us becoming a bit more modular. |
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> Does that mean that using Gentoo would involve spending hours on |
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> figuring out which repository supplies a package that happens to be |
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> quite up-to-date, build and not have huge security issues? |
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That's where the mentioned curated and reviewed repositories featured |
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by us come in. |
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> So... are we doing split repos, or now forking Gentoo and expecting |
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> things to magically work when people attempt to merge a dozen |
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> outdated forks of Gentoo? |
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We're not doing anything -- we're just having a discussion. I'm not |
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sure about what you mean by merging outdated forks though. |
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> NixOS doesn't work. It's a huge pile of hacks that create more |
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> problems than they solve. |
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There are quite a lot of people that would disagree vehemently with |
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you, but I can't really address your issues because you are |
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effectively just saying "NixOS sucks lol". Do you have the same |
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concerns with Guix SD? Could you perhaps elaborate on what your |
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concerns actually are? |
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> Exherbo is special. You can talk about everyone having their own |
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> repository when you have to deal with around 10 users who also |
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> happen to be developers. It doesn't scale to Gentoo. |
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I find this unfounded and about as useful as your "argument" against |
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NixOS. Exherbo has one single contribution hub with a common review |
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system for all repositories. I see no reason this shouldn't scale. |
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> I don't really see how this is relevant to Sunrise. |
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I didn't mean to say that it was -- I just think we should involve |
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users, which Sunrise did. |
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> You have no real technical suggestions, or even a clear vision. I |
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> have no clue how your idea is going to work, or if it's even a |
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> single idea. |
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The email was primarily meant to generate discussion, to see what kind |
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of ideas people have in this direction. But I think there are a few |
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more concrete things in here, and I hope there will be more of those. |
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If you have more questions or ideas, then perhaps my answers will help |
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elucidate the "vision", as it were. |
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- -- |
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Alexander |
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bernalex@g.o |
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https://secure.plaimi.net/~alexander |
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