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From: Sean <sean@××××××××××.org>
To: gentoo-dev@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Good Work, Lads!
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 01:35:14
Message-Id: 1056591551.13288.25.camel@poo.home.local
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Good Work, Lads! by Stroller
1 Yet another THANK YOU! for the Gentoo-dev crowd. I too am one of the
2 shadow mailing list lurkers that delete 80% of the messages that get
3 dropped into my Gentoo folder. While I may delete the majority, the
4 minority that have survived the delete key have been invaluable.
6 Coming from the Debian distribution, I had a good sense of how Linux
7 systems worked, but I do feel that since I've been using Gentoo that I
8 have gained a far better grasp of the foundation level aspects of what
9 makes up a Linux distribution. Who knows if I'll ever use this for
10 anything "worthwhile", but the learning experience is nothing but pure
11 enjoyment, and that itself makes it worth my while.
13 I'll not drone on any longer .... just wanted to toss in my 2c and give
14 a huge THANK YOU to all that have helped create such a superb
15 distribution. You all have my gratitude and appreciation.
17 Sean
19 On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 13:39, Stroller wrote:
20 > Since installing Gentoo I've been intending to learn enough bash to start
21 > writing ebuilds, but somehow haven't managed to get around to it. I've been
22 > reading gentoo-dev all that time, a couple of months now, although I've
23 > rarely posted. I guess I'm an enthusiastic end-user, who has learned &
24 > benefited much since first installing Gentoo.
25 >
26 > With the flurry of posting over the last couple of days, I think it's a good
27 > opportunity for me to say:
29 >
30 > Although I rarely contribute myself, I keep seeing the same topics coming up
31 > here again & again:
32 > How about a different front-end / GUI for Portage or installation?
33 > How can we improve on the /usr/portage file tree?
34 > How about better descriptions?
35 > How about binaries..?
36 > This doesn't work for me. How do I fix it?
37 > When will 1.4 be ready?
38 >
39 > With many of these questions, I can see that the helpful folks making the
40 > suggestions haven't been subscribed to this list as long as I have, and I
41 > can imagine it must be frustrating for the devs to have to say: "Well, we've
42 > talked about that, we're working on it, just bear with us and we'll get it
43 > done as soon as we can".
44 >
45 > It must be a bummer for you guys when folks post "why don't we do it
46 > differently", when they haven't undertaken large projects (I personally have
47 > no concept of what is involved, but can only hazard a guess) and may not be
48 > around in 3 months saying: "well, you remember that big suggestion I made a
49 > while back... here's it is for you, the result of hours of work, ready to be
50 > incorporated into the tree".
51 >
52 > I personally don't give a damn when 1.4 is "released" (although I appreciate
53 > others comments that it'll be a milestone for the Gentoo), and I would
54 > imagine the mention of it in recent threads might be quite frustrating for
55 > the devs; I can imagine that end-users asking when 1.4 will be ready is like
56 > them saying "I don't care about all the hard work that you're putting into
57 > this project, I'm interested in superficial stuff here".
58 >
59 > And for anyone who thinks that a desktop manager like KDE or Gnome is an
60 > essential part of a working Unix distribution... and that you "need"
61 > binaries for anything beyond stage 3... well, *cough*... luxury!.. tch!..
62 > in my day we had to walk 3 miles in the snow, barefoot! We had to eat coal
63 > for breakfast, then install Irix before class. Tch! Don't know they're born,
64 > these kids with their fancy namby-pamby frambuffer logo'd bootable-CDs.
65 >
66 > Anyway, I just wanted to post & say that there are some of us (I am sure
67 > MANY of us) who aren't always so vocal, but who think that the Gentoo
68 > development team are doing a great job. I think Gentoo is *exactly* on track
69 > & focussed in the right direction.
70 >
71 > Any time I see a good suggestion made here, I know that it's the sort of
72 > thing that he dev team treat seriously, and which will be incorporated into
73 > Gentoo, just as soon as other priorities are settled.
74 >
75 > Many thanks, guys,
76 >
77 > Stroller.
78 >
79 >
80 >
81 >
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