Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up

[Rich Freeman]

On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 2:39 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com> wrote:
> In this day and age not having a network-capable install out the box is
> silly. The first major action after unpacking the tarball is going to be
> adding new packages and doing updates, the source code for which is on
> the network.

A network manager isn't needed to use a network - only to set one up.
The network is already set up when you unpack the tarball and chroot
into it.

You could just as easily argue that in this day and age not having a
kernel install out-of-the-box is silly, and yet that is exactly how we
supply the stage3.  There isn't an obvious choice for a kernel, so we
don't make it for the user.  We could just stick gentoo-sources in
there and let the user unmerge it and merge something else, I suppose.

We don't ship a working pulseaudio either, since many don't use it,
and alternatives exist.

I guess the main virtue of the openrc network managers is that they're
disabled by default, and at the moment I don't think they collide with
anything else.  That being the case, their inclusion isn't as
impactful as it would be for other packages.

Rich