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From: Daniel Goller <morfic@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Making the developer community more open
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 05:04:31
Message-Id: 1143176499.1688.55.camel@localhost64.wan
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Making the developer community more open by Dan Meltzer
1 On Thu, 2006-03-23 at 18:34 -0500, Dan Meltzer wrote:
2 > On 3/23/06, Daniel Goller <morfic@g.o> wrote:
3 > > On Wed, 2006-03-22 at 09:15 -0500, Dan Meltzer wrote:
4 > > > Asking developers to "proxy" takes almost as much time as it does to
5 > > > ask them to maintain a package by themselves.
6 > >
7 > > wrong
8 > >
9 > > > The developer is
10 > > > directly responsible for anything he commits, so he will have to still
11 > > > test the ebuild, still test any revisions, and still follow the
12 > > > package to make sure there are no problems. The writing the ebuild
13 > > > part of the process is not that much of the commitment, I don't see
14 > > > the point.
15 > > >
16 > >
17 > > we are not just talking about new ebuilds/bumps
18 > > having someone do all the work and having to only verify the end results
19 > > of the users work is a big help, instead of having to look into the
20 > > problem, checking if a fix exists elsewhere, or digging through the
21 > > source yourself, you verify the fix solves the problem and does only
22 > > that.
23 > >
24 > > and everyone wins
25 >
26 > So it sounds like you are asking them to do everything developers do,
27 >
28 > why not just make them be developers?
29 > >
30
31 because they do not want more than take care of their one package and do
32 not want more than someone taking care of their work, maybe?
33 or maybe because they don't like a lot of devs due to bad experiences,
34 and would not want to be any part of the group, but still enjoy working
35 on packages
36
37 there are people who i would love to see as devs, but are not
38 particularly interested on having to deal with some of the devs, having
39 a proxy allows them to help gentoo w/o being exposed to the people they
40 otherwise would have to deal with

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