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From: Luis Francisco Araujo <araujo@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:29:55
Message-Id: 44CA482B.9000105@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?) by Enrico Weigelt
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4 Enrico Weigelt wrote:
5 > The gentoo devs currently do much of the upstream's work.
6 > Fixing bugs or even adding new stuff which does not directly have to
7 > do w/ gentoo should be done exlusively by the upstream.
8 >
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10 Not true at all.
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12 We (as developers) won't be able to avoid helping upstream (it is
13 actually in our social contract). For example, we have dealt with
14 packages inside our herd where we are able to reproduce and detect a bug
15 before upstream does; or even found a "better" way of doing something,
16 and upstream (lucky for us) has always been happy of receiving our
17 suggestions/fixes , included even patches.
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19 I personally think there is nothing wrong with this, i see it actually
20 as one of the goal of gentoo.
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23 > For an oss-qm + gentoo connection I imagine the following workflow:
24 > (should also work w/ other distros this way)
25 >
26 > * gentoo user files an bug -> gets assigned to the devs.
27 > * dev inspects the bug whether its gentoo-specific or general
28 > @ general:
29 > * dev pushes the bug to oss-qm (files a bug there),
30 > * oss-qm tries to solve this bug and releases a new hotfix
31 > * the gentoo dev then takes in the hotfix and gives the
32 > patched package into the QM cycle.
33 >
34 > @ gentoo:
35 > * works as currently
36 >
37 > As for the suggested user contribution:
38 >
39 > The users willing to contribute simply join the oss-qm team and do
40 > their works there. This at least would cope evrything that's not
41 > gentoo specific. What remains to gentoo would be just the contents
42 > of the ebuild file (ie. useflags and dependencies okay, etc).
43 >
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45 I fail to see a border line between what you call 'gentoo specific'
46 problems, and upstream problems. Really, it is not _that_ simple.
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48 Also, i don't see how this might be an alternative to my current proposal.
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54 Luis F. Araujo "araujo at gentoo.org"
55 Gentoo Linux
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