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From: Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Cc: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Moving more architectures to ~arch only
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2021 16:09:07
Message-Id: A6S2YJC3.SB24A7UU.LLXFFZNW@B7JW6UE5.WKCRA4M4.BZ6FJN24
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Moving more architectures to ~arch only by Marek Szuba
1 On 2021.10.14 14:40, Marek Szuba wrote:
2 > Dear everyone,
3 >
4 > Following some private discussions, I feel quite strongly now that it
5 > would both considerably improve certain processes and make our use of
6 > limited manpower more efficient were we to further reduce the number
7 > of
8 > stable arches in Gentoo Linux. Specifically, I propose to drop
9 > - hppa,
10 > - ppc,
11 > - sparc,
12 > - x86
13 > to ~arch-only status.
14 >
15 > Note that this does NOT mean we intend to drop support for those
16 > arches
17 > altogether.
18 >
19 > There are IMHO several good reasons for this:
20 > - most of the arches from this list are quite dated and either
21 > aren't
22 > really developed upstream any more or got superseded by newer ones
23 > (for
24 > the record, it's been 18 years since the first amd64 CPUs came out)
25 > - we have got very few people actually supporting these arches, and
26 > in
27 > case of hppa there is also the hardware bottleneck. Subsequently,
28 > stabilisation requests often take a long time to resolve
29 > - feedback we receive, e.g. by Bugzilla, suggests that Gentoo on at
30 > least some of these arches have got very, very few users
31 > - last but by no means least, my personal experience from the last
32 > several years suggests that running ~arch is reasonably trouble-free
33 > these days
34 >
35 > WDYT?
36 >
37 > --
38 > Marecki
39 >
40 >
41 >
42
43 Only x86 raised an eyebrow here but only one, and not very far.
44 It has to come sooner or later, so if not now, then when?
45
46 Datapoint: On the forums, x86 installs are either done by mistake
47 or by users who know what they are doing on a 32 bit SoC,
48 The first set of users will be helped, the second set know what they
49 are doing.
50
51 In case its not clear after all that waffle, I'll go with the flow.
52
53 --
54 Regards,
55
56 Roy Bamford
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