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From: Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] where goes Gentoo?
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 22:05:34
Message-Id: 1118181939.19008.13.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] where goes Gentoo? by Aron Griffis
1 On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 19:55 -0400, Aron Griffis wrote:
2 > This is kinda bloggish, because it's basically a transcription of an
3 > IRC monologue. My apologies if it's hard to follow... Nonetheless,
4 > I'm interested in how other developers feel on the topics I bring up
5 > below.
6
7 <snip>
8
9 > Also I find it amusing when people say that Gentoo exists for the
10 > users. I think that is wrong. Gentoo exists for the *developers*.
11
12 This is the reason why *I* use/develop Gentoo. I love it. I could care
13 less if every single user we have drops us for Ubuntu. I would still
14 develop Gentoo so long as it is still fun.
15
16 > It's our playground, and it's the reason we use a live tree rather
17 > than switching to an actually sane approach. The users are cool
18 > because they point out bugs, help solve problems on bugzilla, suggest
19 > enhancements, provide patches, and notify us of package updates.
20 > Sometimes they become developers. But the truth is that Gentoo sees
21 > improvement and maintenance in the areas that appeal to the
22 > developers. And that is why Gentoo exists for the developers first,
23 > the users second.
24
25 <starts slow clap>
26
27 Well, Aron, I honestly think that you've hit the nail on the head. I
28 never have been able to grasp how people could think Gentoo could ever
29 become a serious player in the corporate world of suits and guys with
30 nice hair and fake white teeth. Do we really want to go there? Do we
31 really need to start sending out assclowns in suits to shake hands with
32 a bunch of clueless corporate types, then schmooze them over golf just
33 to get people to use Gentoo? What ever happened to "because it's
34 friggin' cool"?
35
36 Don't get me wrong, I love our users. That being said, I work on Gentoo
37 not because of them, but because of *myself* and *my* personal itches.
38 It just so happens that there's a group of guys out there that seem to
39 want similar things, so we've banded together as this loose group of
40 developers, determined to make the best damn Linux *for us* that we can.
41 If suits want to use it, great! If not, well, they weren't paying the
42 bills anyway, so frag 'em! *grin*
43
44 --
45 Chris Gianelloni
46 Release Engineering - Strategic Lead/QA Manager
47 Games - Developer
48 Gentoo Linux

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Re: [gentoo-dev] where goes Gentoo? Alin Nastac <mrness@g.o>