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From: 320095285153-0001@t-online.de (Achim Gottinger)
To: gentoo-dev@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] odds and ends
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:37:54
Message-Id: 3A6F60ED.CD9098C3@gottinger.de
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] odds and ends by Thomas Flavel
1 Thomas Flavel wrote:
2
3 > On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 03:29:04PM -0700, drobbins@g.o wrote:
4 >
5 > > 1.0_rc4-pre2 is fully compatible with all modern Intel and Intel-compatible
6 > > processors, from the i486 on up. While 1.0_rc4-pre2 is optimized for the
7 > > 486, Achim plans to build several different versions of 1.0_rc4 optimized for
8 > > various processors. 1.0_rc4-pre2 has been tested on K6 systems and works
9 >
10 > I don't understand why not a 386? I kind of expected the distcd to be 386
11 > binaries, and then to compile and install optimised to whatever my processor
12 > happens to be? What am I mis-understanding? ;)
13 >
14 > How would gentoo be installed on a 386?
15
16 You can build all the sys packages with a CHOST of i386-pc-linux-gnu and merge them
17 to some temporary place.
18 Then chroot there and recompile and remerge all packages. Eighter do this a few times
19 or follow the dependencies
20 starting by glibc to be sure you have no statically linked in i486 assembler code in
21 there. Then you can build the
22 other stuff you need and you should have a i386 based system.
23 Do you still use i386 ? My oldest is an i486SX/25 with a 200MB HD running as a
24 firewall here under gentoo.
25 The i486 version is definetly slower that the i686 version we had before using i386
26 won't make things better.
27 If there really is a need for a i386 version I can build one.
28
29 >
30 >
31 > > sys-* layout
32 > > ------------
33 > >
34 > > Achim and I have resolved how to determine what goes in the sys-* categories.
35 > > We are breaking with FreeBSD tradition by making the sys-* categories contain
36 > > _only_ a barebones, minimal system -- the minimal Gentoo system that can still
37 > > recompile itself, with a few exceptions. Previously, what was included in
38 > > sys-* was more of a subjective thing, i.e. what I would like to see in a basic
39 > > Gentoo Linux server install, the tools I personally like, etc.
40 > >
41 > > Rather than do this, we're going to be integrating some new functionality into
42 > > Portage that's going to be very, very nice and will allow everyone to have the
43 > > kind of "base" system that they like. Portage will recognize your selection not
44 > > only at install time, but throughout the lifetime of your system, prompting you
45 > > to upgrade or add new packages when necessary.
46 >
47 > Excellent. Roughly what size is minimum now?
48
49 Currently about 200MB with lots of package-docs, and the development tools, but if
50 you unmerge
51 all sys-devel packages beside the c++-libs and spython remove /usr/doc and /usr/src
52 and all the static libs in /lib and /usr/lib you only need about 130MB and still have
53 a runable system. Other optimizations could be turning of building
54 of localdata-stuff in glibc removing unneccesary zoneinfo and terminfo entrys...
55
56 Hmm, maybe we should introduce a new USE flag to trigger build of packages with only
57 the really neccesary stuff.
58
59 ~Achim
60
61 >
62 >
63 > - Tom
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Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-dev] odds and ends drobbins@g.o
Re: [gentoo-dev] odds and ends Thomas Flavel <thomasfl@××××××××××××.uk>