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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing PMS to Portage Manager Specification
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 06:49:05
Message-Id: 1502779735.828.5.camel@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing PMS to Portage Manager Specification by "William L. Thomson Jr."
1 On pon, 2017-08-14 at 18:39 -0400, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
2 > On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 15:20:26 -0700
3 > Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o> wrote:
4 >
5 > > On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 5:26 PM, William L. Thomson Jr.
6 > > <wlt-ml@××××××.com> wrote:
7 > > >
8 > > > Portage supports sets, but the PMS has no mention. Then there is
9 > > > debate on what they are. Creating so much noise it drowns the bug
10 > > > request and makes it invalid. Despite the need still existing, and
11 > > > PMS lacking anything on sets.
12 > > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=624300
13 > > >
14 > > > Just the needs I have with portage are stalled, marked as invalid.
15 > > > No discussion for inclusion in PMS. Like documenting sets.
16 > >
17 > > Ah, well, that's the main mystery of this thread solved. Thanks.
18 >
19 > That is the tip of the iceberg, not the main problem itself. I have
20 > never been a fan of EAPI, or the resulting PMS, etc. Having been around
21 > before such existed, I do not believe it has helped Gentoo and in fact
22 > maybe the opposite. Why EAPI 0 stuff is in tree, or very old EAPIs.
23 >
24 > Now becoming more real issues rather than just a dislike of EAPI.
25 >
26
27 Yes, it would be much better if we didn't have EAPI and instead of old
28 EAPI=0 ebuilds we would just have old ebuilds that install half-broken
29 packages because of ebuild incompatibility.
30
31 --
32 Best regards,
33 Michał Górny

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