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On 1/29/08, joshua jackson <tsunam@g.o> wrote: |
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> George Prowse wrote: |
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> > Grant Goodyear wrote: |
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> >> Google has been hinting not-so-subtlely that there's going to be |
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> >> a 2008 Google Summer of Code. I expect that if we want to participate, |
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> >> we're going to have to have our ducks in a row by March, if not |
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> >> earlier. |
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> >> |
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> >> So, does Gentoo want to participate this year? |
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> >> |
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> >> If so, who's going to run it? Who's going to help? What are |
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> >> we going to do differently this year? |
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> >> |
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> >> I'll help if it's something people want to do, but I'd like to see |
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> >> some serious changes this year. I'd like us to only accept proposals |
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> >> that we actually think are quite good. In the past we've been told |
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> >> that we |
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> >> have N slots to fill, so we choose the best N proposals, despite the |
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> >> fact that we often only get a handful of exceptional proposals. I'd |
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> >> also like to see us require weekly public status reports from our |
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> >> students. Quick show of hands: how many people know how what any |
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> >> of our students accomplished last year? I doubt there are many, |
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> >> despite the fact that some good work was done last year. |
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> >> |
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> >> Thoughts? Comments? |
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> >> |
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> >> -g2boojum- |
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> > How does the SoC work within Gentoo? Do the developers suggest things |
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> > they want worked on or do the users suggest things, the developers |
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> > okay it and then they get worked on or what? |
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> > |
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> > George |
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> To give a short answer, its a combination of projects suggested by |
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> developer and projects submitted by the students. They get reviewed by |
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> the User Rel/SOC Staff and put into an order of projects to submit to |
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> Google. They then decide which ones they approve of to fund for the |
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> students to work on. |
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Anyone can contribute 'ideas'. 'Ideas' are not proposals and |
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proposals are what (in the past) we have had to rank and fund. So if |
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your 'idea' doesn't get a competant proposal written by a student it |
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is not going to get funded, end of story. |
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> Ultimately its up to google to decide on the projects and how many get |
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> funded but we as the project have some say in the order they view them |
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> in. This year I'm hoping to get some decent projects that are attainable |
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> in the summer for students. We've had unfortunately some that have |
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> gotten fairly far but didn't get finished. This will also require |
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> mentors who work with the students who can help them succeed as well. |
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> Its something I'll be bringing up soon as well to discuss with the |
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> developer pool (as my understanding is that at least one mentor must be |
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> part of the project), doesn't eliminate mentors from the community but |
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> it'd be 2 instead of just one.... |
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Google has no input on individual proposals that get funded; they just |
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fund N proposals for a given 'project' (that would be Gentoo for us). |
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I am unsure if we can involve the users in this process because I |
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don't think we have permission to post applications online. |
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Past experience has shown that the overwhelming majority of proposal |
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are terrible and won't get funded. Perhaps I can get permission from |
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some of our former students to present some 'good' proposals on the |
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soc webpage. |
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> I need to go over more details about it but would like to apply again as |
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> a project. |
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