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From: Pacho Ramos <pacho@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCHES] kernel-2.eclass: Various changes requested by users. + [STABLEREQ?] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.8.7: Any objections against stabilizing?
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 09:31:19
Message-Id: 1365931865.6940.5.camel@localhost
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCHES] kernel-2.eclass: Various changes requested by users. + [STABLEREQ?] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.8.7: Any objections against stabilizing? by Ryan Hill
1 El dom, 14-04-2013 a las 02:24 -0600, Ryan Hill escribió:
2 > On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 08:55:39 +0200
3 > Tom Wijsman <TomWij@g.o> wrote:
4 >
5 > > On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 23:09:05 -0600
6 > > Ryan Hill <dirtyepic@g.o> wrote:
7 > > >
8 > > > > - Make use of readme.gentoo.eclass to make the user aware of the
9 > > > > Gentoo Linux Kernel Upgrade Guide only the first time he emerges
10 > > > > the package. Fixes bug #457598.
11 > > >
12 > > > Call me crazy, but upgrade guides seem like something you might want
13 > > > to tell the user about during an upgrade.
14 > >
15 > > True, I was wondering if there is a way to show it on their first
16 > > upgrade instead; most users would indeed not be able or forget to
17 > > bookmark this during their handbook install.
18 > >
19 > > Therefore, I won't commit this patch.
20 > >
21 > > I wonder if Pacho can adapt the eclass to allow us to do this on the
22 > > first upgrade, I have explicitly put him in CC so he can consider that.
23 > > Perhaps he can also explain why he wanted to see this change happen.
24 > >
25 > > I thought the goal of this eclass is to get rid of repeating messages
26 > > that are not that important from the elog. After you have installed the
27 > > kernel twice you should be able to do it a third time. People that
28 > > really still need the link have it either bookmarked or can look into
29 > > that file, another concern here is that nothing mentions its existence.
30 > > The user would have to spot it in the list of installed files, strange.
31 > >
32 > > If I misunderstood the goal of this eclass, sorry, it's not documented.
33 > > I thought people were against these kind of repeating messages in elog.
34 > >
35 > > - http://devmanual.gentoo.org/eclass-reference/readme.gentoo.eclass
36 > >
37 > > - Bug in discussion: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457598
38 >
39 > Personally I think that the entire idea of only displaying messages on the
40 > first install is completely asinine. What exactly is the benefit? Were users
41 > complaining that we were being too helpful and they'd like us to hide important
42 > messages in random places?
43 >
44
45 When you get tons of messages in summary.log, there are times that is
46 easier to ignore important messages over all the less important ones