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From: Steven Elling <ellings@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Some suggestions
Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2003 00:26:16
Message-Id: 200309061926.08828.ellings@kcnet.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Some suggestions by Jon Portnoy
1 On Saturday 06 September 2003 18:56, Jon Portnoy wrote:
2 > On Sat, Sep 06, 2003 at 06:48:54PM -0500, Steven Elling wrote:
3 > > On Saturday 06 September 2003 13:05, David Sankel wrote:
4 > > > 2) make.conf updates to be more automated
5 > > >
6 > > > Most gentoo users, I believe, modify this file. This specific file
7 > > > changes quite often with updates. Since most users only modify the
8 > > > "USE" and "CFLAGS" components, having an update that is automatic is
9 > > > plausible. This feature is a trade off between the integrity and
10 > > > consistency of the system verses end-user maintenance time.
11 > >
12 > > Requiring portage updates to make.conf at all has always bugged me.
13 > > The file is meant to contain custom settings for portage and to append
14 > > to or override variables in make.globals and the defaults. It should
15 > > not hold all the documentation for make.conf. It should not hold all
16 > > the defaults... that's what make.globals and the defaults are for.
17 > >
18 > > Why is all the documentation on make.conf in make.conf anyway?
19 > > Shouldn't it be in make.globals or better yet the man page?
20 > >
21 > > make.conf is used for system customization and, as such, portage should
22 > > leave it alone. When portage is installed on the drive for the first
23 > > time it should not create make.conf. Portage should leave it up to the
24 > > admin/user of the box to create the file.
25 >
26 > Most users find it very convienent to have all of that information
27 > available to them, especially on an initial install. Additionally, it's
28 > necessary to have that file present for Portage to operate properly,
29 > even if it hasn't been edited.
30
31 IMHO, it is just as convienent to have the information in the man page.
32 Also, maybe there needs to be a make.conf doc on www.gentoo.org and
33 referenced from the install docs. That way anyone doing an install could
34 print out or view the install and make.conf docs. Even though I've done
35 several installs, I still like to have the install instructions in front of
36 me and a make.conf doc would help.
37
38 Does portage bomb out if make.conf is not present? If so, maybe portage
39 needs to be changed so that it will work without the file.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Some suggestions Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@g.o>