[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [soc] Python bindings for Paludis

[Steve Long]

Seemant Kulleen wrote:
>> > That's uncalled for.  There's no need to get nasty.
>>
>> I applaud your intent, but feel it would have far more effect on the
>> atmosphere if applied to a few of your devs, rather than users who employ
>> milder terms?
>>
>> It just seems knowingly unfair, and I don't believe that is your purpose.
>
> Not getting into this.  If your intent is to undermine, please do it
> privately.  If you're just trying to be inflammatory (as you seem to be
> often), please put a stop to it *NOW*.
<..>
Sorry, it was not to undermine at all, but rather to get some parity of
treatment for usrs as opposed to devs. I am more than willing to discuss
with you privately, however your _seeming_ bias which I am addressing has
been carried out publically. And if I am in fact to be moderated by the new
`asshat brigade', I would hope there would indeed be parity.

So: no, I am not trying to be inflammatory. Just to get the groundrules
sorted before those kinda comments from a core dev get me banned ;)

And yeah, Mr Sawtell has it right in at least one sense: you're overreacting
to what might to US ears be perceived as patronising, but in the UK is
simply careful language.

> You can check my posts to see me address anyone getting out of hand.
>
I'm not saying that you are wrong in addressing the people that you have.
Rather that you allow much more derogatory and frankly unprofessional
comments from devs. In this same thread, I have seen much worse comments;
the example that comes to mind is Mike Frysinger's spat with ciaranm.

Much as I think Ciaran is trolling this list, and apparently has a bot
sending out EAPI data regarding Portage non-compliance one line at a time
(that was a joke), and further that someone who has been banned from gentoo
development should in fact automatically be banned from the public dev m-l,
I cannot say I have thought all of Mr Frsyinger's comments appropriate or
helpful. I was actually ignoring this thread, and only read more of it
because I saw such core devs (council members?) commenting.

I had hoped to read a much more level-headed debate about socio-political
aspects of development in a virtual community. Instead I again saw a dev
resort to IRC-type nastiness instead of starving a troll. I left that
sub-thread and read only your insightful comments; Duncan said all I wanted
to, far better than I would have, about the original topic of PMs.

Although, based on Mr Warner's post, the whole topic about SoC should have
been on another list. Shame amne can't just move it like he would have ages
ago in the forums..


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