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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Cc: phajdan.jr@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users
Date: Wed, 01 May 2013 20:43:09
Message-Id: 20130501223244.445093b9@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users by "Paweł Hajdan
1 On Wed, 01 May 2013 12:52:09 -0700
2 ""Paweł Hajdan, Jr."" <phajdan.jr@g.o> wrote:
3
4 > On 5/1/13 3:04 AM, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
5 > > It is sad to say that the "territoriality" in base-system (and
6 > > toolchain) is not allowing any kind of progress [3] [4]. This is
7 > > nothing new, by the way.
8 > >
9 > > [4] "useless crap": https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=399615
10 >
11 > As far as I read the bug, Mike (vapier) is doing the right thing.
12 > Distros doing lots of custom changes can only add more chaos to the picture.
13 >
14 > Have you reached out to relevant upstreams? If they refuse to make
15 > changes, that's a different story. So far I think it's reasonable to go
16 > to upstreams first.
17
18 Well, the first thing to do would be making /sbin/init a symlink
19 and renaming sysvinit. Now, why would sysvinit upstream do such
20 a thing? I doubt it's a change that upstream should be willing to do
21 because of what downstream wants to do afterwards...
22
23 --
24 Best regards,
25 Michał Górny

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