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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Question, Portage QOS v3
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 21:13:19
Message-Id: pan$d794c$d3b1406d$10caeb07$
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Question, Portage QOS v3 by Igor
1 Igor posted on Fri, 10 Jan 2014 21:26:47 +0400 as excerpted:
3 > PS No way PortageQOS will work without uniform agreement. That thing was
4 > missing from portage design from the start and now with the legacy it's
5 > either everyone is willing to give it a try or none. I don't want to
6 > push somebody to something he doesn't see purpose for. There are people
7 > here who spent lots of time on the project and it might be left as is if
8 > they don't want any change.
10 In that case, don't bother, because as the saying goes, attempting to get
11 100% agreement on /anything/ in gentoo is "like herding cats". It simply
12 Does. Not. Work.
14 The closest gentoo gets to 100% agreement is the ones who disagree
15 agreeing to yield to the council's decision and shut up for the sake of
16 maintaining the peace, believing time will eventually prove their point.
17 Or they don't, and they ultimately end up either deciding to go elsewhere
18 than gentoo on their own, or get booted by devrel, appeal to council goes
19 against them, and undertakers and infra shut down their dev access
20 permanently.
22 In fact, some of those people ended up with exherbo (which AFAIK is a
23 play on ex=former, and gentoo's larry the cow mascot) or other projects
24 which you would consider entirely competing. Yet there's a few devs that
25 contribute to both projects, and paludis is an accepted portage
26 alternative, with PMS accepted (grudgingly by some devs) and declared by
27 council to be a defining guideline for in-tree ebuilds. And both those
28 projects are originally/primarily exherbo authored/contributed.
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32 "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
33 and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman