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From: Danny van Dyk <kugelfang@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] tests
Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 06:52:51
Message-Id: 200705020849.58669.kugelfang@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] tests by Daniel Gryniewicz
1 Hi Daniel,
2
3 Am Mittwoch, 2. Mai 2007 schrieb Daniel Gryniewicz:
4 > Honestly, tests are nice, but too many of them are broken upstream,
5 > and we are not (and should not be, IMO) in the position of fixing
6 > them all. If a developer wants to work with her upstream to fix the
7 > tests in her packages, great and more power to her. Most of us are
8 > swamped just supporting them, let alone fixing test cases. You
9 > really need an upstream who cares a lot about tests for the tests to
10 > be meaningful and work. Lots of upstreams don't currently care, and
11 > have inherited obsolete and (now) broken tests from previous
12 > maintainers.
13 When you read Piotr's original mail carefully, you will see that he
14 lists 'non-functional' as category, and nobody keeps you from declaring
15 your packages' test-suites as such. However, keep in mind that several
16 other maintainers don't have so many problems with their test-suites.
17
18 > I think this thread in general overestimates the value of tests in
19 > packages. I think we will find, if we go through the effort, that
20 > more of them are useless and/or broken than are useful. My 2 cents.
21 As a member of the sci team I have to say I completely disagree with you
22 here. sci-* packages mostly have reasonable test suites, the importance
23 to run them is very high (you do want reproducable and correct results,
24 don't you?). However, sometimes you cannot run those tests from an
25 ebuild's environment, for example when you need a running x-server.
26
27 Danny
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29 Danny van Dyk <kugelfang@g.o>
30 Gentoo/AMD64 Project, Gentoo Scientific Project
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