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From: Sergey Popov <pinkbyte@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: useflag policies
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 13:06:19
Message-Id: 55C9F33F.5070702@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: useflag policies by Sergey Popov
1 11.08.2015 16:04, Sergey Popov пишет:
2 > 11.08.2015 15:32, Michael Palimaka пишет:
3 >> On 11/08/15 20:17, Sergey Popov wrote:
4 >>> 09.08.2015 23:28, Ulrich Mueller пишет:
5 >>>> I disagree with this. Really, REQUIRED_USE should be used sparingly,
6 >>>> and IMHO the above is not a legitimate usage case for it.
7 >>>
8 >>> So, you prefer to make ugly mess of deps here like i posted before or
9 >>> introduce some really unneded USE-flag like 'gui', 'qt', etc. to make
10 >>> users even more confused?
11 >>>
12 >>> Really, look at man-db ebuild. Especially on berkdb and gdbm USE flags.
13 >>> And dependency string like this:
14 >>>
15 >>> !berkdb? ( !gdbm? ( sys-libs/gdbm ) )
16 >>>
17 >>> One sentence: "WHAT THE HELL?"
18 >>>
19 >>> Imagine that it would be dozen of flags. Is it fun to mess with deps
20 >>> like this for you?
21 >>
22 >> Shall we ban this too?
23 >>
24 >> ffmpeg? (
25 >> libav? ( media-video/libav:= )
26 >> !libav? ( media-video/ffmpeg:0= )
27 >> )
28 >>
29 >>
30 >>
31 >>
32 >
33 > No, because ffmpeg here is a feature AND name of concrete realization.
34 > Not ideal case as i would said, but it is acceptable.
35 >
36 > You want to migrate to such decision? Like:
37 >
38 > qt? (
39 > qt5? ( dev-lang/qtcore:5 )
40 > !qt5? ( dev-lang/qtcore:4 )
41 > )
42 >
43 > Fine by me, if you would ask.
44 >
45 > As i said one message earlier: Something like $(qt_use_default qtgui 5)
46 >
47 > which will generate something like this:
48 >
49 > qt4? (
50 > qt5? ( dev-lang/qtcore:5 )
51 > !qt5? ( dev-lang/qtcore:4 )
52 > )
53 > !qt5? ( !qt4? ( dev-lang/qtcore:5 ) )
54 >
55 > would help too.
56 >
57 > If you are doing complicated things(and please, do not tell me that
58 > provided dependency string is simple and understandable by every
59 > developer in just a second without wanting to "improve" or "simplify"
60 > it) - do it through eclass. And provide nice API.
61 >
62 > Thanks for listening and sorry if i was too harsh
63 >
64
65 Oops, sorry dev-qt/qtgui inside the brackets, of course.
66
67 --
68 Best regards, Sergey Popov
69 Gentoo developer
70 Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead
71 Gentoo Quality Assurance project lead
72 Gentoo Proxy maintainers project lead

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