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On 8/6/21 11:58 AM, A Schenck wrote: |
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> On 8/5/21 5:57 PM, Alec Warner wrote: |
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>> On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 2:44 PM Georgy Yakovlev <gyakovlev@g.o> wrote: |
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>>> Hi, |
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>>> |
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>>> We've been collecting more and more container related packages in |
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>>> app-emulation/* |
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>>> |
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>>> What do you think about finally moving those packages to separate category? |
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>> As always my opinion is that: |
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>> (a) Categories were a design mistake. |
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>> (b) The mistake is hard to fix. |
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>> (c) It's basically low-value to try to 'correctly' categorize packages |
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>> because of A. |
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>> (d) Recategorizing means a bunch of stuff has to be updated. |
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>> Do people actually care what category things are in? I just use |
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>> --search or eix or whatever and the category is just this...bad |
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>> concept we attach to packages for silly historical reasons.. |
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> We particularly like categories, and especially the (mostly) two-level |
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> concept in gentoo. `emerge --search` works for some things, but often |
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> returns extra junk to filter through, when we know a project name, it's |
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> easier to just `ls /usr/portage/dev-ruby/` and see if there's a `grpc` |
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> package in it (upstream gem seems to force `-j12` for native |
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> compilation, wondered if gentoo packagers had fixed that problem). |
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> Also, the graphical portage interface we use (and barely maintain) has a |
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> two-level category picker which even lets you select just the top-level |
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> category and see what's under several of it's subcategories: |
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> kuroo two-level category picker |
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Unsurprisingly the list dropped the image even though it was small. |
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Here's an ancient screenshot of the two-level category-package view: |
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https://a.fsdn.com/con/app/proj/kuroo/screenshots/Kuroo4-packages.png |
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> -A |
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>> -A |
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>>> probably app-containers/ |
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>>> |
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>>> Here's the tentative list, most tools have description attached for easier |
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>>> review, 36 candidates so far, there may be more around, I only looked at |
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>>> app-emulation. |
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>>> |
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>>> app-emulation/buildah - A tool that facilitates building OCI images |
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>>> app-emulation/cadvisor - container analyzer |
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>>> app-emulation/conmon - An OCI container runtime monitor |
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>>> app-emulation/containerd - A daemon to control runC |
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>>> app-emulation/containers-storage - containers/storage library |
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>>> app-emulation/cri-o - OCI-based implementation of Kubernetes CRI |
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>>> app-emulation/cri-tools - CLI and validation tools for CRI |
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>>> app-emulation/crun - OCI Container Runtime fully written in C |
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>>> app-emulation/distrobuilder - System container image builder for LXC and LXD |
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>>> app-emulation/docker - Main offender |
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>>> app-emulation/docker-bench-security - Test for best docker practices |
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>>> app-emulation/docker-cli - Main offender cli |
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>>> app-emulation/docker-compose - Multi-container orchestration for Docker |
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>>> app-emulation/docker-credential-helpers - |
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>>> app-emulation/docker-gc - Docker garbage collection of containers and images |
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>>> app-emulation/docker-proxy - Docker container networking |
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>>> app-emulation/docker-registry - |
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>>> app-emulation/docker-swarm - |
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>>> app-emulation/flannel - An etcd backed network fabric for containers |
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>>> app-emulation/go-secbench - run and evaluate the docker security benchmark |
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>>> app-emulation/img - Standalone Dockerfile and OCI container image builder |
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>>> app-emulation/k3d - creates k3s clusters in docker |
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>>> app-emulation/kompose - Tool to move from docker-compose to Kubernetes |
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>>> app-emulation/lxc - A userspace interface for the Linux kernel containment |
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>>> app-emulation/lxc-templates - |
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>>> app-emulation/lxd - Fast, dense and secure container management |
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>>> app-emulation/nerdctl - Docker-compatible CLI for containerd |
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>>> app-emulation/podman - Main offender killer |
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>>> app-emulation/reg - Docker registry v2 command line client |
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>>> app-emulation/runc - another docker thing |
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>>> app-emulation/s6-overlay - an s6-based init system for containers |
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>>> app-emulation/sen - Terminal User Interface for docker engine |
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>>> app-emulation/skopeo - Utility for operations on container images/repositories |
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>>> app-emulation/slirp4netns - User-mode networking for unpriv network namespaces |
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>>> app-emulation/snapd - Service and tools for management of snap packages |
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>>> app-emulation/umoci - Manipulation tool for OCI images |
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>>> Those 4 are technically emulation related, so I'm not sure about category: |
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>>> app-emulation/docker-machine |
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>>> app-emulation/docker-machine-kvm |
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>>> app-emulation/hyperd |
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>>> app-emulation/runv |
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