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From: Mike Gilbert <floppym@g.o>
To: Gentoo Dev <gentoo-dev@l.g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Eclasses and EAPI
Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2016 14:46:03
Message-Id: CAJ0EP41LNvkv2JuMCDpm4A5gvg438TG3VPNf+V32+9G_w7SFTQ@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Eclasses and EAPI by Alexis Ballier
1 On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 5:20 AM, Alexis Ballier <aballier@g.o> wrote:
2 > On Fri, 2 Sep 2016 19:19:16 +0200
3 > Kristian Fiskerstrand <k_f@g.o> wrote:
4 >
5 >> On 09/02/2016 07:17 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
6 >> > On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Alexis Ballier
7 >> > <aballier@g.o> wrote:
8 >> >> On Fri, 2 Sep 2016 18:13:20 +0200
9 >> >> Kristian Fiskerstrand <k_f@g.o> wrote:
10 >> >>
11 >> >>> Hi Devs,
12 >> >>>
13 >> >>> I'm wondering whether it wouldn't make sense to require eclasses
14 >> >>> (or strongly encourage) to include an explicit list of EAPIs it
15 >> >>> has been tested for in order to ease testing when introducing new
16 >> >>> EAPIs.
17 >> >>>
18 >> >>> We have seen some issues already with EAPI6 bump related to
19 >> >>> get_libdir and people updating EAPI in ebuild without properly
20 >> >>> testing the inherited eclasses. having a whitelist in place and
21 >> >>> die if eclass is not updated to handle it solves it.
22 >> >>>
23 >> >>> Thoughts? comments? cookies? threats?
24 >> >>>
25 >> >>
26 >> >> Never liked to wait for a whole eclass update for a new eapi when I
27 >> >> only use a couple functions from it that I have tested when
28 >> >> updating an ebuild.
29 >> >>
30 >> >
31 >> > I think the idea is a sound one though. And there is no reason it
32 >> > couldn't be tweaked to give the option to set it at the function
33 >> > level and not the eclass level. This is also an argument for
34 >> > simplifying eclasses when it makes sense (I realize this will never
35 >> > be 100%).
36 >>
37 >> If specific functions can be useful there is also a case to be made
38 >> for refactoring of the code
39 >>
40 >
41 >
42 > Well, let's say we have an eapi that introduces usedeps and
43 > src_configure. Let's say we have an ebuild with a few built_with_use ||
44 > die calls that could benefit from usedeps. Let's call this ebuild vlc.
45 > Let's say this ebuild inherits an eclass for updating the icon cache
46 > and redefines all other ebuild phases. Let's call this eclass gnome2.
47 > Let's assume this eclass is widely used by tens of packages that do
48 > actually use the exported functions from it. It makes a lot of sense to
49 > ban this new eapi in this eclass until it is ported. However, porting
50 > it takes months and we are stick with those built_with_use || die calls.
51 >
52 > Of course, the best solution is to port the eclass. The second
53 > option is to drop the inherit from the ebuild and call the relevant
54 > functions by defining ebuild phases. This duplicates a bit of code but
55 > works well. However, it seems to me it is more practical to have an
56 > eclass not dying and letting ebuild writers deal with their crap if
57 > something goes wrong.
58 >
59
60 I think this is a good argument for keeping utility functions and
61 phase functions in separate eclasses, regardless of EAPI gating.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Eclasses and EAPI Alexis Ballier <aballier@g.o>