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On 08/22/2015 08:01 PM, Daniel Campbell (zlg) wrote: |
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>> The primary concern of gamers is that the game runs and that they |
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>> can reasonably install it (see the games-roguelike/nethack bug |
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>> which was unsolved for 8 years). |
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> What happened with that bug? 8 years? That's insane! |
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It got fixed in several overlays and then later got force-fixed by QA. |
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>> And this is just one example where games-specific |
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>> policies/guidelines are necessary. Another topic is ebuild cleanups |
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>> which have to be handled differently for various reasons. |
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> What ebuild cleanups are we talking about, specifically? |
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A great example is games-strategy/openra, which is very shaky in terms |
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of stability and if you want to play it on LAN, you definitely want more |
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than one version to try out. |
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Another example are fps games like games-fps/urbanterror where a lot of |
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servers still run older versions (and you might even want to play these |
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on LAN). |
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> Since you have some experience working on game ebuilds and are clearly |
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> invested in seeing games maintain their quality, what do you want to |
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> see happen to games on Gentoo? If we can gather a list of things we |
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> want to do or fix (from games maintainers, users, and other devs), |
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> maybe we can settle on actionable things and find a way forward. |
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Things I think that need to stay the same, although they can be improved: |
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* strict review policies, because I don't think it makes a lot of sense |
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to not communicate (we already had that). We have git, we can |
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communicate quickly and double check each others ebuilds/fixes. Games |
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ebuilds in particular have a lot of pitfalls. |
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* the team should have the freedom to enforce their own set of policies |
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and guidelines to a certain extent |
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* the team should be the go-to guys when it comes to games ebuilds |
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(pretty similar to what we have with other projects already... ofc you |
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can maintain your own python/games package without the python/games |
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herd, but it's really not very good style) |
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Things that need to change |
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* communicate more and be more open to global discussions |
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* be more open to community collaborations (github PRs for example) |
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* be proactive... don't just wait that people contact you |
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* actually process membership applications and extend the team |
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* be more active on the wiki and create useful sites (e.g. I started |
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https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Games) |
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* try to bring more GoG and humble bundle games to the tree |
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* have an official games overlay for packages that really cannot meet |
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our current minimum standards (or other trash/graveyard/WIP things)... |
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the main work/collaboration however should happen in the tree |
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* help improve steam gaming on gentoo, even if it's just documentation |
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* improve official gentoo gaming support channels in general |
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