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Dan Armak wrote: |
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> On Thursday 20 October 2005 21:48, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: |
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>>On 20/10/2005 21:16:47, Dan Armak (danarmak@g.o) wrote: |
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>>>On Thursday 20 October 2005 20:58, Matthijs van der Vleuten wrote: |
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>>>>On 10/20/05, Dan Armak <danarmak@g.o> wrote: |
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>>>>>To solve this issue it would have to be an on-by-default flag, i.e. |
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>>>>>'noxserver'. I know some people are strongly against nofoo flags. |
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>>>>What about an off-by-default 'xserver' flag? |
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>>>It wouldn't solve the problem at hand. |
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>>>Without any flag at all, the user needs to 'emerge xorg-x11' manually to |
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>>>get eg KDE to run locally. With an off-by-default flag, he needs to set |
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>>>it on manually, _before_ installing KDE, to get an xorg-x11 server. As |
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>>>long as he needs to do something manually, explicitly, it should just be |
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>>>an 'emerge xorg-x11', which after all is a very simple operation. |
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>>Maybe I'm being stupid, but I don't understand why a user would need to |
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>>emerge xorg-x11 manually when doing 'emerge kde'. Surely somewhere in |
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>>kde's dependency graph the X server is called up in RDEPEND? An X server |
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>>is clearly a run-time dependency. |
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>>Like, konqueror RDEPENDS on qt which RDEPENDS on xorg-xserver, or whatever. |
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> No, KDE (like all X11 apps) only needs the client X11 libs and headers. It can |
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> then contact a remote X11 server over the network. |
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> Now that the client libs and headers are available in separate ebuilds, |
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> there's no reason for KDE to depend on the server ebuild, so it won't. |
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Take the X use flag out, since X is horribly not descriptive. |
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Xclient, Xserver, both tell you what they are doing, both probably |
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global use flags. Announce it loudly, and fix everything at once, since |
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that is probably how it will go anyway :) |
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I think it's really cool to be able to build a server that has no X, but |
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has KDE on it, especially since 99% of the time I'd never actually log |
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in locally. |
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There is nothing wrong with 2 flags here, IMHO. Yeah you have to set |
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them, either in default-linux/$arch ( not base here however, set it |
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higher up, not everyone wants friggin x installed *shakes fist* ) or |
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wherever. That or auto-use, either way people using -* are screwed, we |
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know this and they know it. It's something they deal with every day. I |
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dout their system is going to be horribly screwed as long as they are |
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paying attention. If they randomly --depclean without looking, then |
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yeah X will probably get ripped out from under them :) Thats their risk. |
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(antarus) |
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-Alec warner |
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