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On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:17:56 +0400 |
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Ivan Chernyavsky <camposer@××××××.ru> wrote: |
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> Recently I've subscribed to this list because I thought this is the |
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> right way to start being involved in Gentoo development process --- I |
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> thought technical discussions are of most importance here. |
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You are sadly mistaken. Gentoo hasn't been able to deliver technical |
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progress for a long time, and anyone attempting to get anywhere will be |
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met with constant attacks from people who are unable to admit to |
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themselves that some fairly major changes are needed to allow Gentoo to |
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keep up with the rest of the world. |
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Unfortunately, Gentoo is now more concerned about pandering to its |
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'community' (in reality a small number of prolific forums posters who |
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run Ubuntu) and stroking the egos of certain old-time staffers who |
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haven't actually done anything for years. Getting anything done |
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requires wasting large amounts of time dealing with people who: |
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* do nothing but post links to that 'poisonous people' talk at random |
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intervals and accuse people of being useless trolls, thus exhibiting all |
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the hallmarks of being poisonous useless trolls themselves. |
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* dismiss any technical criticism as being a 'corner case'. |
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* think that their opinion is important despite them not understanding |
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what's under discussion. |
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* immediately claim that any thread with more than five posts is a |
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flamewar. |
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* deliberately disguise any point they may or not be making in horridly |
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broken English (despite being a native speaker) just to wind people up. |
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* yell about how projects 'aren't sufficiently inclusive' without ever |
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bothering to either contribute themselves. or check whether anyone else |
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has tried to contribute. |
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* refuse to get involved in technical discussions on mailing lists or |
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irc where people can disagree with them, instead keeping all their |
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development discussion on their blog where they can delete any comment |
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questioning their decisions. |
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* pull silly emo tactics like posting "I'm not posting to this list any |
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more" or "I'm telling everyone I'm killfileing you" or "I'm going to |
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get my employer to end hosting Gentoo hardware unless you do |
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everything I say" in an attempt to disrupt progress even further. |
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* consider being in an uninformed majority more important than being |
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correct. |
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* have some insane paranoid conviction that Freenode staff are the ones |
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busy spying on everything they say, whilst conveniently forgetting to |
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notice that Gentoo's own infra team and current Council nomination group |
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includes the person who abused root powers to sniff out lilo's password |
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and give it to the GNAA. |
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* use every given opportunity to disrupt things by saying "Why haven't |
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the Portage people contributed to this?", knowing full well that the |
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Portage person is busy doing other things. |
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* conveniently forget that Portage is the thing holding Gentoo back. |
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* will reply to any post suggesting that things are less than perfect |
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with "well go away and fork Gentoo then". |
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* think that any unanswered posts from people doing any of the above is |
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sufficient reason for progress to be blocked until all the above are |
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satisfied, which of course they won't ever be. |
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And in amongst all of this, if you fight really really hard, you might, |
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after several months and a whole lot of people trying to kill you, |
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eventually get agreement upon some very minor technical point that's |
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necessary to start getting somewhere. Which is a shame, because Gentoo |
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could quite easily become a lot better than it is. |
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Ciaran McCreesh |