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From: "Sven Vermeulen (swift)" <swift@g.o>
To: gentoo-doc-cvs@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-doc-cvs] gentoo commit in xml/htdocs/doc/en: gentoo-alpha-faq.xml
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 19:58:18
Message-Id: 20110815195808.169F22004C@flycatcher.gentoo.org
1 swift 11/08/15 19:58:08
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3 Modified: gentoo-alpha-faq.xml
4 Log:
5 Bug #379317 - Updated Gentoo Alpha FAQ thanks to Matt Turner (mattst88) and armin76
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7 Revision Changes Path
8 1.8 xml/htdocs/doc/en/gentoo-alpha-faq.xml
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10 file : http://sources.gentoo.org/viewvc.cgi/gentoo/xml/htdocs/doc/en/gentoo-alpha-faq.xml?rev=1.8&view=markup
11 plain: http://sources.gentoo.org/viewvc.cgi/gentoo/xml/htdocs/doc/en/gentoo-alpha-faq.xml?rev=1.8&content-type=text/plain
12 diff : http://sources.gentoo.org/viewvc.cgi/gentoo/xml/htdocs/doc/en/gentoo-alpha-faq.xml?r1=1.7&r2=1.8
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14 Index: gentoo-alpha-faq.xml
15 ===================================================================
16 RCS file: /var/cvsroot/gentoo/xml/htdocs/doc/en/gentoo-alpha-faq.xml,v
17 retrieving revision 1.7
18 retrieving revision 1.8
19 diff -u -r1.7 -r1.8
20 --- gentoo-alpha-faq.xml 20 Jan 2008 12:25:01 -0000 1.7
21 +++ gentoo-alpha-faq.xml 15 Aug 2011 19:58:07 -0000 1.8
22 @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
23 <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
24 -<!-- $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo/xml/htdocs/doc/en/gentoo-alpha-faq.xml,v 1.7 2008/01/20 12:25:01 yoswink Exp $ -->
25 +<!-- $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo/xml/htdocs/doc/en/gentoo-alpha-faq.xml,v 1.8 2011/08/15 19:58:07 swift Exp $ -->
26
27 <!DOCTYPE guide SYSTEM "/dtd/guide.dtd">
28 <guide link="/doc/en/gentoo-alpha-faq.xml">
29 @@ -14,6 +14,9 @@
30 <author title="Editor">
31 <mail link="nightmorph"/>
32 </author>
33 +<author title="Author">
34 + <mail link="mattst88">Matt Turner</mail>
35 +</author>
36
37 <abstract>
38 This FAQ is intended to answer some of the most frequently asked questions
39 @@ -24,8 +27,8 @@
40 <!-- See http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5 -->
41 <license/>
42
43 -<version>1.5</version>
44 -<date>2008-01-20</date>
45 +<version>2</version>
46 +<date>2011-08-15</date>
47
48 <faqindex>
49 <title>About this Document</title>
50 @@ -59,20 +62,6 @@
51
52 </body>
53 </section>
54 -<section id="status">
55 -<title>What is the current status of the Gentoo/Alpha Project?</title>
56 -<body>
57 -
58 -<p>
59 -You can find out about the current status of the Gentoo/Alpha project via
60 -status reports. These reports inform the public about what we've been up to.
61 -New status reports will be posted about once every 6 months. Current and past
62 -status report can be found on the <uri
63 -link="/proj/en/base/alpha/status/index.xml">Status Reports Project page</uri>.
64 -</p>
65 -
66 -</body>
67 -</section>
68 </chapter>
69
70 <chapter>
71 @@ -82,10 +71,10 @@
72 <body>
73
74 <p>
75 -Not quite! HP stopped taking orders for new Alpha systems on April 27, 2007.
76 -They will take orders for Alpha options and upgrades until April 25, 2008. See
77 -their <uri link="http://h18002.www1.hp.com/alphaserver/evolution.html">planning
78 -page</uri> for more details.
79 +Kind of, yes. HP stopped taking orders for new Alpha systems on April 27, 2007.
80 +and for Alpha options and upgrades on April 25, 2008. See their <uri
81 +link="http://h18002.www1.hp.com/alphaserver/evolution.html">planning page</uri>
82 +for more details.
83 </p>
84
85 </body>
86 @@ -107,8 +96,8 @@
87 <body>
88
89 <p>
90 -All Alpha systems support both little and big endian. However, Linux only uses
91 -little endian.
92 +Alpha systems are little endian. A large Cray system using Alphas was big
93 +endian, but Linux will never support it.
94 </p>
95
96 </body>
97 @@ -118,12 +107,12 @@
98 <body>
99
100 <p>
101 -No, not without a full x86 system emulator like <uri
102 -link="http://bochs.sourceforge.net/">bochs</uri>. In the past DEC/Compaq/HP
103 +No, not without a x86 emulator like <uri
104 +link="http://wiki.qemu.org/Main_Page">qemu</uri>. In the past DEC/Compaq/HP
105 maintained a program called <c>em86</c> which allowed Linux/x86 applications to
106 be run on Linux/Alpha systems. However, the program is closed source and no
107 longer maintained upstream. There are no <c>em86</c> binaries available that
108 -are compatible with gcc3's ABI.
109 +are compatible with gcc-3's ABI.
110 </p>
111
112 </body>
113 @@ -156,12 +145,10 @@
114 <body>
115
116 <p>
117 -Alpha hardware generally isn't available at your local computer store. If you
118 -want a new Alpha you're going to have to contact <uri
119 -link="http://h18002.www1.hp.com/alphaserver/">HP</uri>. If you want a used
120 -Alpha (more economical), <uri link="http://ebay.com">eBay</uri> is usually a
121 +Alpha hardware generally isn't available at your local computer store.
122 +<uri link="http://ebay.com">eBay</uri> is usually a
123 good option, assuming that the shipping doesn't cost you too much. There are
124 -several used equipment dealers that can be found via google, however most of
125 +several used equipment dealers that can be found via Google, however most of
126 them charge too much.
127 </p>
128
129 @@ -291,7 +278,7 @@
130 <c>-msmall-data</c>. This will cause <c>gcc</c> to take advantage of some
131 features of the Alpha architecture by storing heavily used pieces of data in
132 specific sections called the small memory sections. The sections are limited to
133 -64kb which means accessing anything stored in them will only take one
134 +64KiB which means accessing anything stored in them will only take one
135 instruction.
136 </p>
137
138 @@ -303,7 +290,7 @@
139
140 <p>
141 This flag should probably not be used in your global <c>CFLAGS</c> as some
142 -objects require more than 64kb to be stored, and this will cause a gp_overflow
143 +objects require more than 64KiB to be stored, and this will cause a gp_overflow
144 ld error.
145 </p>
146
147 @@ -395,13 +382,13 @@
148 supports both SRM and ARCs (ARC, AlphaBIOS, ARCSBIOS), then you should follow
149 <uri link="http://www.alphalinux.org/faq/x31.html">the SRM Firmware Howto</uri>
150 for switching to SRM and use aboot. If your system can only use ARCs (Ruffian,
151 -nautilus, xl, etc.) then you will need to choose milo.
152 +xl, etc.) then you will need to choose milo.
153 </p>
154
155 </body>
156 </section>
157 <section id="abootfs">
158 -<title>Can aboot boot kernels from xfs, reiserfs, or jfs partitions?</title>
159 +<title>Can aboot boot kernels from EXT4, XFS, ReiserFS, or JFS partitions?</title>
160 <body>
161
162 <p>
163 @@ -412,9 +399,11 @@
164 </p>
165
166 <p>
167 -Support for reiserfs and xfs is planned. In fact, there are patches floating
168 -around that add support for those two file systems. However, the use of those
169 -patches is unsupported.
170 +Support for ext4 is planned. In fact, there are patches floating
171 +around that add support for <uri
172 +link="https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106855">ReiserFS</uri>, <uri
173 +link="https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107103">XFS</uri>, and <uri
174 +link="http://alphalinux.org/wiki/index.php/Aboot_EXT4_support">ext4</uri>.
175 </p>
176
177 </body>
178 @@ -428,10 +417,9 @@
179 <body>
180
181 <p>
182 -There was only one option for Java VM and Java SDK on Gentoo/Alpha. The
183 -packages were called <c>compaq-jre</c> and <c>compaq-jdk</c>. Sadly, Compaq/HP
184 -stopped all support and the packages were removed from Gentoo on October 11,
185 -2006.
186 +Compaq/HP offered binary packages, called <c>compaq-jre</c> and <c>compaq-jdk</c>.
187 +They stopped all support, and the packages were removed from Gentoo on October
188 +11, 2006. Since then, we haven't supported Java.
189 </p>
190
191 </body>
192 @@ -442,9 +430,9 @@
193 <body>
194
195 <p>
196 -We really hope so. We are following the development of the jdk from <uri
197 -link="http://sablevm.org">SableVM</uri>. It isn't ready yet, but we hope with
198 -time that it will be a full drop in replacement jdk.
199 +It's possible to use <c>icedtea</c> on Alpha, but we have no plans to
200 +support it, due to the high maintenance costs involved with testing hundreds of
201 +additional packages.
202 </p>
203
204 </body>
205 @@ -466,7 +454,7 @@
206 <body>
207
208 <p>
209 -Bringing .NET to alpha isn't a simple task. It requires coding all of the
210 +Bringing .NET to Alpha isn't a simple task. It requires coding all of the
211 assembly language code generation macros for the JIT (just in time) compiler
212 and coding architecture specific functions (register allocators, etc).
213 </p>
214 @@ -502,7 +490,7 @@
215 </p>
216
217 <p>
218 -Gentoo/Alpha will review all bug reports about non working 2.6 systems and
219 +Gentoo/Alpha will review all bug reports about non-working 2.6 systems and
220 will try to help as much as we can.
221 </p>
222
223 @@ -515,7 +503,7 @@
224
225 <p>
226 Short answer is no. They were supported some time ago, but we lost the hardware
227 -and the maintainer so right now they are not supported. If you are interested
228 +and the maintainer so now they are not supported. If you are interested
229 and want to continue the initial work, please let us know.
230 </p>
231
232 @@ -526,12 +514,8 @@
233 <body>
234
235 <p>
236 -There were some times in the past when it was broken. However, <c>2.6.15.1</c>
237 -and <c>2.6.16.19</c> are both known to work well. If you find that SMP is
238 -broken and want SMP support you will need revert to the one of the versions
239 -mentioned above or use a 2.4 kernel. If you really need to run the latest 2.6
240 -kernel on an SMP box and you don't care that only one of your processors is
241 -getting used, then you could configure the 2.6 kernel without SMP support.
242 +There were some times in the past when it was broken. However, modern kernel
243 +versions are known to work well.
244 </p>
245
246 </body>
247 @@ -593,7 +577,7 @@
248 <chapter>
249 <title>Troubleshooting</title>
250 <section id="tshoot-xorg">
251 -<title>Why is my Xorg locking up my Alpha?</title>
252 +<title>Why is Xorg locking up my Alpha?</title>
253 <body>
254
255 <p>
256 @@ -647,8 +631,8 @@
257 <body>
258
259 <p>
260 -<uri link="http://alphalinux.org/">AlphaLinux.org</uri> is a central repository
261 -for all things Alpha/Linux.
262 +<uri link="http://alphalinux.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page">AlphaLinux.org</uri>
263 +is a central repository for all things Alpha/Linux.
264 </p>
265
266 </body>