Re: [gentoo-doc] Wiki, Take #whatever

[AllenJB]

Request for clarification:
So you're proposing that if I write a good article on the wiki, the 
Gentoo devs should take that article, XMLify it and put it on the static 
site where I can't update it easily?

AllenJB

wireless wrote:
> Jose Luis Rivero wrote:
>
>>> So, I'd like to hear what you think. Should we have a wiki? Why or why
>>> not?
>
> NO !!!
>
>> What will be the propose of the wiki? More documentation? Written by
>> anyone and hosted in gentoo.org? Without being sure about its quality
>> first? If so, you have my "no, please".
>
>>> There's no question that having a properly-administered wiki can be a
>>> powerful asset. Look at Ubuntu, Debian, Arch, the Xfce wiki, etc. What
>>> about Gentoo?
>
>> Maybe I'm too ignorant but every time a look to Ubuntu or Debian wiki I
>> wasn't able to be sure about the 'official','review','updated' state of
>> the documentation.
>
>> Summarizing:
>>  - If you think we have problems in GDP, let's talk about them.
>>  - Seems to me that people is thinking of using a wiki not as a result
>>    of a process to solve a problem.
>>  - I prefer quality over quantity. Every step done shouldn't touch the
>>    Gentoo Documentation quality.
>>  - If someone is thinking of us involved in the wiki review or admin
>>    process and all its fun, please ask first.
>>  - If someone is thinking of replacing docs with a wiki, I really
>>    dislike the idea.
>
> Sorry for the delayed response, I've been unplugged for a while.....
>
>
> After reading the entire thread, a rather simple solution seems
> obvious. The GDP or Infra or whatever official group should stay
> out of the the wiki business, for many aforementioned reasons.
>
>
> However, if  what ever the new wiki(s) pop up for the ashes of any
> previous efforts, it seem like a natural place for 'official gentoo
> folks' to peruse, parse, filter and/or glean information for good
> ideas and (tested) content into one of the existing gentoo
> semantics (GDP infra whatever), but leave the morass of a wiki to
> the user community at large.
>
> That way folks could first look to the trunk of Gentoo for docs
> on a given subject and if nothing there exist, THEN go to any
> of these community wikis.
>
>
> For example, installing a webcam is pretty important and very, very
> common among needs for any distro. Yet if you google for webcam,
> install and gentoo, you get a variety of 'hash' mostly outdated.
>
>
> Those talent folks within the official gentoo structure, should
> recognize this and build docs somewhere, of high quality, that
> walk a gentoo user through how to set up a capture card (ntsc/pal)
> or a web cam.
>
> But for every issue that really needs a good doc, there will be
> many wikis with a variety of quality, mostly due to the lack of
> maintenance over time.   Smart folks with lots of current
> responsibilities, should stay focused on current goals.
>
>
> However, as the external gentoo wikis mature, but the others
> in the gentoo community, folks can glean good idea to increase
> the officially maintained docs.
>
> YMMV,
>
> James
>