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Jan wrote: |
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> you might be interested in a draft of the "Introduction to Linux" stuff |
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> [1] than one of our developers started some time ago. |
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Thank you for letting me know about this document. I had not seen it before |
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but I think it contains some very useful information. |
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Josh wrote: |
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> Problem is, a general book about Linux |
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> fundamentals is not necessarily what Gentoo needs -- users (and |
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> developers) need to know specifics about *our* OS. The general Linux |
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> concepts they can pick up from just about anywhere. That information has |
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> been duplicated ad infinitum; just stroll down to your local bookstore |
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> or browse the web. You want to know the specific Gentoo stuff? Our |
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> installation handbook and online documentation suffice quite nicely. |
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I think that a problem for most newbies is that they are overwhelmed by the |
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huge amount of Linux information that is available and they do not know where |
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to begin. Beyond this, most Linux-oriented information assumes the user has a |
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solid fundamental understanding of how a computer works. Many Linux experts |
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gained their understanding of how a computer works on relatively simple |
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machines ( like Commodore 64s and Apple IIs ) and when they began learning how |
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UNIX-like operating systems worked, the fundamental knowledge they already had |
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enabled them to grasp the UNIX information quickly. |
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Unfortunately, the fundamentals of how a computer works is not taught as widely |
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today as it was in the past and this lack of fundamental information is a huge |
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barrier that newbie must overcome before they start studying Linux. |
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I am not aware of any distros that are currently taking the time to provide |
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newbies with the fundamental pre-Linux computer knowledge they need. I do |
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think, however, that a distro that took on this challenge would generate a |
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significant amount of interest. |
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> That's why I'm still up in the air about Sven's old draft handbook -- |
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> there's a very fine line to walk. You can either just write something |
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> that is more generic, and has fewer distro-specific |
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> commands/suggestions/discussions (in which case what's the point?) or |
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> you can show users what they need to know to accomplish tasks "The |
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> Gentoo Way". Finding the balance between the two (if there is one), is |
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> tough. Especially since I'm not too sure that someone who first needs to |
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> know how a computer works (or what it is!) should be trying to figure |
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> out Gentoo just yet. ;) -- Hey, I could be wrong; maybe Gentoo would |
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> make a great object lesson. |
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My opinion is that Gentoo does provide just the right technologies ( and just |
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the right balance between difficulty and simplicity ) to allow a newbie to go |
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from knowing almost nothing about computers through grasping the fundamentals. |
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Once they have the fundamentals, learning the Linux-oriented materials is much |
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easier. |
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It has been my experience that around 75% of the students who try to install |
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Gentoo Linux on their own, fail and give up. My expectation is that the |
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materials I have written should be able to drop the failure rate to below 25%. |
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> All that being said, do take a look at the draft Jan linked; it's |
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> already CC-licensed, and our policy thus far (based on precedent) is |
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> that we don't host documents here that haven't been guideXMLified and |
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> properly licensed without the prior approval of the author(s). |
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I like the draft document quite a bit, but the materials I have created are |
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aimed at a different goal than it is :-) |
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As for the document format, the materials I have written are currently in |
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OpenDocument format, but they could be transformed into another format like |
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guideXML. I think, however, that a case could be made for leaving them in a |
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format that has the look and feel of a traditional book. |
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Thanks, |
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Ted |
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tkosan@×××××.com |
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