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On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 10:48:56AM +0000, wireless wrote: |
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> Say I'm new to embedded linux. |
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I would recommend you to set up a few LFS systems and/or regular |
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Gentoo systems for starters. |
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> Now, I have simple qustion. What x96 processors does it run on? |
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> NONE of these pages mention i386 or any other specific processor up |
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> to the 64 bit variants. Does it run on everything? If so, one |
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> sentence explicitly listing what it runs on, would be keen. |
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Do you want to keep updating that sentence when new hardware is |
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released? Submit web page bugs. |
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> All I see is "Gentoo uclibc/x86/hardened profile)" in the first doc |
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> GNAP should boot successfully on 486 systems with as low as 32 Mb |
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> RAM." on the second page. |
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So now you know it's at least 486 and up. |
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> I have no idea if I can indeed install (or should try to install) |
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> GNAP on a newer x86 such as one of the 64 bit variants. GNAP |
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> appeals to me very much, because building firewalls on 486 and 586 |
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> class machines is something I do quite often. |
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If you don't want to control every single file, GNAP may be for you. |
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> >> So from what has been said, 'embedded gentoo' only has these |
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> >> choices for builds: i586, i686, and higher? |
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> > who said that ? |
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> Exactly, we agree! The impression I have is I have no clue where |
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> GNAP ends and embedded Gentoo (should) start. Or are they the same |
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I'd say there is a bit of overlap. |
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> So GNAP is a special case of 'Embedded Gentoo' just for x86? |
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> Embedded Gentoo, will run on a 386 and a 486? |
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Wow - come on? |
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GNAP is an appliance platform. AFAIK only x86 so far. |
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Embedded Gentoo is more like a meta-distribution, for embedded |
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systems, regardless of architecture. |
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> > the uClibc stages on our mirrors target i386. if you want/need |
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> > something else, you'll have to build it. |
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> Can you be explicit as to these locations? |
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> mirrors.tera-byte.com/experimental/x86/embedded/stages/ |
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> gives me these choices for a i586: |
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> stage3-x86-uclibc-hardened-2005.0.tar.bz2 |
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> stage3-x86-uclibc-2006.1.tar.bz2 |
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> stage3-x86-uclibc-2005.0.tar.bz2 |
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So you found three uClibc stages, and since they only state x86 they |
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will work on any x86 architecture. |
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> HOwever, I usually use this one, with a traditional gentoo firewall |
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> install: |
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> stage3-i586-2006.1.tar.bz2 |
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> but I am curious when, why or why not use this one: |
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> stage3-i586-2006.1-no-nptl.tar.bz2 |
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Depends on whether you want NPTL or pthread threading in glibc. |
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> I guess I cannot use the last two because all embedded gentoo uses |
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> uclibc ? |
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Embedded Gentoo currently supports gnu, klibc and uclibc according to |
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crossdev -t help. klibc probably doesn't work though, and uclibc |
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isn't ported to all architectures supported by crossdev. |
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> I'm guessing that is exactly what makes 'embedded gentoo' is the |
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> use of uclibc? A few explicit statements somewhere in the web |
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> pages, would go a long way to illuminating these details. |
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GNAP is very special purpose, as stated by the name too. |
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Embedded Gentoo is very generic, a meta-distribution, just like |
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regular Gentoo. |
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//Peter |
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