Gentoo Archives: gentoo-embedded

From: Sander Knopper <sander@×××××××.tk>
To: gentoo-embedded@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-embedded] uclibc/busybox environment
Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 18:14:19
Message-Id: 200410092014.18983.sander@knopper.tk
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-embedded] uclibc/busybox environment by Ned Ludd
1 Op zaterdag 9 oktober 2004 20:00, schreef Ned Ludd:
2 > On Sat, 2004-10-09 at 13:25, Mike Frysinger wrote:
3 > > On Saturday 09 October 2004 06:50 am, Sander Knopper wrote:
4 > > > Is there a way to combine these two profiles or is it better to make
5 > > > one of my own? At the moment I would go with the second option since it
6 > > > would allow me to use busybox, uclibc and also give me the opportunity
7 > > > to leave utilities as gawk, grep, gzip and tar away because busybox
8 > > > already supplies them. I'll have to take the fact that these programs
9 > > > sometimes aren't fully compatible with their GNU relatives for granted.
10 > >
11 > > the idea was to use uclibc for development systems and embedded for the
12 > > target (i think, solar can correct me)
13 > >
14 > > ive been keeping the uclibc profile up-to-date, but i think the embedded
15 > > one could use some work ...
16 >
17 > Indeed the embedded one could. I've mentioned this one to Chris before
18 > about it using glibc vs uclibc by default on IRC but I think he was in
19 > the middle of his work day. That profile was added long before we had a
20 > pretty decent uClibc native environments setup so a instantaneous switch
21 > might not be possible or we could break some existing users setups.
22 >
23 > But as I see things it stands right now the embedded profile target
24 > could be split up into glibc/uclibc subsystems. We could use these
25 > profiles for our vendor mini distros like soekris, wrt54g's. netwinders,
26 > nslu2, video systems, pbx systems, kiosk, dumb terminals, etc..
27 > However those profiles would have to be based on user/vendor submissions
28 > as our gentoo devs only provocatively support what we have hardware for.
29 > donations welcome be that time or hardware or documentation to help ease
30 > this maze of what we call embedded.
31 >
32 > But so far not a lot of effort has been put into this area of profiles
33 > because there has been lots of hurdles for us to overcome in the process
34 > of the development environment alone.
35
36 At the moment I've combined the two profiles, it seems to work at my computer.
37 The most difficult part though, is to delete perl and some other packages.
38 Especially since autoconf/automake and some other packages depend on it
39 because of the wrapper. Currently I'm trying to overcome this by modifying
40 some ebuilds and put them in portage-overlay but it's not very clean though.
41
42 I'm also thinking of just dropping automake/autoconf...;) The only packages
43 that seems to depend on it is libtool and this is due to some bugs which I've
44 to take a closer look at.
45
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