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From: Matthew Summers <msummers42@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-hardened@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-hardened] Which profile?
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:21:45
Message-Id: c8b556060902120621h5a65618fvf38d61a9ac47e613@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-hardened] Which profile? by Tom Hendrikx
1 On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 1:55 AM, Tom Hendrikx <tom@×××××××××.net> wrote:
2
3 > Gordon Malm wrote:
4 > > On Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:53:46 Tom Hendrikx wrote:
5 > >> Then I'll be the one to ask the annoying questions:)
6 > >>
7 > >> 1) Why are they there (could be related to some over-enthousiast
8 > >> non-hardened devs)?
9 > >>
10 > >> 2) Why do the profiles in the released hardened stages point to
11 > >> "../usr/portage/profiles/hardened/linux/x86/2008.0" by default? I
12 > >> checked this in stage1-x86-hardened-2008.0.tar.bz2 and
13 > >> stage3-i686-hardened-2008.0.tar.bz2
14 > >>
15 > >> 3) As these profiles seem to reflect the new "preferred layout", I
16 > >> understand that someone added them. But why aren't settings from
17 > >> supported hardened profiles ported to this new layout, to remove the
18 > >> ambiguity?
19 > >
20 > > To make a long story short one hand didn't know what the other was doing.
21 > The
22 > > new profiles are the way I'd like to go, but they need some adjustment
23 > and
24 > > the old profiles should be used for now. The situation is what it is
25 > today
26 > > because nobody (me) has gotten around to fixing+testing the new profiles
27 > and
28 > > dealing with the transition. Not what you wanted to hear probably, but
29 > > there's much to do in hardened land and not many to do it.
30 > >
31 > > Gordon Malm (gengor)
32 > >
33 >
34 > My questions arose from curiosity, so thanks for clearing up. It's too
35 > bad that the situation is like it is, but I understand that there is
36 > more than enough work to be done, and not enough man power.
37 >
38 > Just know that testing stuff can be easily 'outsourced', just abuse the
39 > mailing list:)
40 >
41 > --
42 > Regards,
43 > Tom
44 >
45 >
46 Gengor,
47
48 I had been running the profile in the stage3 with no issues for about a
49 month on a couple of servers without any issues.
50
51 Would it be possible to place a README in the dir with the new hardened
52 stages briefly explaining the situation so our users don't make this mistake
53 again?
54
55 Cheers & thanks for all the fish!
56
57 --
58 M. Summers
59
60 "...there are no rules here -- we're trying to accomplish something."
61 - Thomas A. Edison