Gentoo Archives: gentoo-hardened

From: "Kevin F. Quinn" <kevquinn@g.o>
To: gentoo-hardened@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-hardened] security updates
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:39:09
Message-Id: 20070211133825.09a41e30@c1358217.kevquinn.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-hardened] security updates by Nagy Gabor Peter
1 On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:02:38 +0100
2 Nagy Gabor Peter <linux42@××××××××.hu> wrote:
3
4 > Hi list,
5 >
6 > I have a question:
7 >
8 > Since I am new to gentoo, I don't know how security updates work.
9 >
10 > I know Debian. In Debian if I have stable installed on a production
11 > server, I get regular security fixes, often backported from the
12 > current bleeding edge version, where upstream has fixed the bug to
13 > the version that Debian stable contains.
14
15 Where a security issue is identified in a package, all versions in the
16 tree are either bumped (patched, backported or otherwise) or removed
17 from the tree.
18
19 > I have noticed that in gentoo there are many versions of a package
20 > that are considered stable. Take glibc as an example, according to
21 > http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=glibc, on x86 there are 8
22 > versions available, all of them stable.
23
24 Yep; that's normal. We don't force people to always go up to the
25 latest version of a package. This is especially true for central
26 packages like glibc, which users may well prefer not to upgrade apart
27 from security fixes. If you're building a new system, you might as well
28 use the latest (which is what you get unless you specifically ask for
29 something different).
30
31 > I have now two gentoo machines, one is going to be production, the
32 > other is used to get me a little bit more familiar with the system.
33 >
34 > On the playground machine I have 2006.1 installed, glibc 2.4-r3
35 > On the production machine I have 2006.0, switched to hardened profile,
36 > and then recompile, there I have glibc 2.3.6-r5
37 >
38 > I see now that glibc 2.4-r3 should be upgraded to 2.4-r4 (by the way,
39 > where can I check the differences (Changelog) between two gentoo
40 > versions (like r3 and r4)?)
41 >
42 > So my question: If someone finds a bug in glibc that gets corrected,
43 > what does the gentoo maintainers do about it? Do they backport the fix
44 > in all 8 versions? Or just in some of the versions and mark the not
45 > fixed ones ~?
46
47 For serious security issues, all versions, stable and ~, should get
48 patched & bumped, or removed if they're not easily patched. For other
49 bugs it depends on the severity of a bug.
50
51 > Is there some mailinglist (like debian-security-announce) where such
52 > security fixes are announced?
53
54 See the gentoo-announce mailing list, where all GLSA (Gentoo Linux
55 Security Advisories) are posted.
56
57 > What is the reason that the hardened profile selects the 2.3.6 version
58 > instead of the 2.4? I mean not in glibc's case only, but generally.
59
60 Our toolchain modifications for >=glibc-2.4 and gcc-4.1 aren't quite
61 ready yet. I just have to resolve some significant test failures on
62 x86, then it should be good to go.
63
64 > Does libc 2.4 have troubles with ssp?
65
66 Not really, however SSP has changed significantly from gcc-3 to
67 gcc-4 - RedHat have re-implemented SSP and in the process changed its
68 behaviour in significant ways.
69
70 --
71 Kevin F. Quinn

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