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From: Joachim Blaabjerg <styx@g.o>
To: Sven Vermeulen <swift@g.o>
Cc: gentoo-hardened@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-hardened] What's been done so far?
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:03:25
Message-Id: 200303181903.22582.styx@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-hardened] What's been done so far? by Sven Vermeulen
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4 On Tuesday 18 March 2003 18:53, Sven Vermeulen wrote:
5 > On Tue, Mar 18, 2003 at 11:44:32AM -0600, nick anderson wrote:
6 > > what about the lids project?
7 >
8 > Hmmm, from their website:
9 >
10 > """
11 > 2.4 series development version LIDS 1.0.9 for 2.4.5 is out.
12 > Fri Jun 1 09:31:52 CST 2001
13 > """
14 >
15 > So it's not very actively developed. Furthermore I think that LIDS is
16 > more of a kernelpatch to integrate easier with the daemons that the
17 > project provides, and it is, as the name sais, an Intrusion Detection
18 > System.
19
20 I'd have to disagree. First of all - the latest news aren't on the bottom of
21 the page ;)
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23 Second - which daemons are you talking about? I've been working pretty
24 closely with the LIDS devels for a while, and the last time I checked it
25 was a MAC system which didn't ship with any daemons. Are you sure you
26 aren't thinking of a different project?
27
28 My biggest concern with LIDS is its design. It's still inode based, right?
29 IMO, systrace and grsecurity ACLs solve the same problems as LIDS in a much
30 more elegant fashion.
31
32 > But don't forget what gentoo-hardened is all about: it's not solely
33 > implementing SELinux in Gentoo, it's all about security, so having
34 > LIDS-support (and others) isn't out of the question.
35
36 Indeed, if someone's willing to do the hard work :)
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39 Joachim Blaabjerg
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