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From: Martin Bene <martin.bene@×××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-hardened@g.o
Subject: AW: [gentoo-hardened] Question WRT Grsecurity/PAx and AV Scanner
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 17:13:59
Message-Id: 4D618F6493CE064A844A5D496733D667031C55@freedom.icomedias.com
1 >The question to ask yourself is, "Why would this process need
2 >to get random numbers from /dev/urandom?"
3 >Same for sshd below (though the answer for it is
4 >probably a bit more obvious).
5
6 That's fairly obvious in both cases; gradm was called as gradm -R and thus
7 needs random numbers for handling of the password input; sshd needing random
8 data for its operation is also understandable (new session keys etc.)
9
10 >> /dev/random r
11
12 >I would expect the same from these lines. However, I would
13 >NEVER do this. You do not want all processes to have
14 >access to your limited pool of high
15 >grade random numbers (or any pool of random numbers).
16
17 Definitely true, but I don't think I'm that far wrt my configuration. First I
18 need to really understand how the system works and what's going on -only then
19 does it make sense to start tuning.
20
21 I think the default grsecurity policies could use some updates to make them a
22 really useful starting point instead of a source of pitfalls for the unwary
23 :-)
24
25 Back to the log entries: the sshd entry is obvious now, I had overlooked the
26 "o" subject in the sshd acl and /dev/urandom is not explicitely listet in the
27 sshd acl.
28
29 Understanding WHY it's not a good idea to let sshd inherit the default acls
30 is another matter.
31
32 Could the /dev/urandom message for gradm -R be an artefact of reloading the
33 ruleset?
34
35 Bye, Martin
36
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Re: AW: [gentoo-hardened] Question WRT Grsecurity/PAx and AV Scanner "Lamont R. Peterson" <lrp@××××××××.com>